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Title: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: jelo kid on June 02, 2012, 07:54:21 PM
sa mga programmers here at PGGF, anung mga programming languages ang napag-aralan nyo na?
or post anything abouT it here..
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: jelo kid on June 02, 2012, 07:59:02 PM
ako.. natry ko na ang ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE, C LANGUAGE, VISUAL BASIC, HTML, PHP. . .
kayo ba?
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: carpediem on June 03, 2012, 10:24:26 PM
There is a thread all about programming here (http://www.pinoyguyguide.com/forums/index.php?topic=1754.0).
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: jelo kid on June 04, 2012, 05:35:34 AM
ou nga nu? parT 2 nalang to..hehe
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Post by: Isamu on June 23, 2012, 01:56:23 PM
SA AMIN MDOS AT C++ AND JAVA HTML DIN
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: jelo kid on June 24, 2012, 09:21:49 PM
mga kuyas, patulong naman po sa projecT ko..
voting systeM using PHP.

Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: bobbylost on June 28, 2012, 01:24:19 PM
Mga napag-aralan ko nung college:
1. COBOL
2. C
3. Assembly Language
4. Java
5. Vb
Gamit ko ngayon sa work, ABAP.
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on June 28, 2012, 02:11:09 PM
^Hahaha. Nauwe ka din sa SAP..
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Post by: bobbylost on June 28, 2012, 02:33:17 PM
Oo nga eh. Sa trabaho ko pa natutunan.
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Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on June 28, 2012, 02:34:48 PM
Gnun tlga.. aq eh 1x q lang ginamit yung Visual Basic mga bilyon years ago pa..
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: bobbylost on June 28, 2012, 02:37:35 PM
Ngayon, eto na. Lang alam ko'ng programming language. Eto ang bumubuhay sakin ngayon. Hehehe!
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on June 28, 2012, 02:40:35 PM
basta pag magpoprogram ka eh gumamit ka ng mga methods ok.. wag na wag kang mag-sspagetti programing.. yung sala-salabat na codes.

lahat ng mga kakilala kong developers eh napapanot pagdating ng senior level..
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: bobbylost on June 28, 2012, 02:50:54 PM
Hahaha! Makapal pa naman buhok ko. Nakow! Di pwede sa lahat ng company yung spaghetti codes, masasabon ng QA. Ngayon naman, bibihira na lang yung company na walang coding standards.
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on June 28, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
pag naging senior level ka na and up eh mapapakanta ka ng "Against all Odds", "Another day in Paradise" at "Separate Lives".
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: bobbylost on June 28, 2012, 03:07:05 PM
Quote from: marvinofthefaintsmile on June 28, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
pag naging senior level ka na and up eh mapapakanta ka ng "Against all Odds", "Another day in Paradise" at "Separate Lives".
Hahaha! I've been there bro. 7yrs na ako sa field ng programming.
Eto ilan sa mga naging kanta ko:
1. Basang-basa sa ulan - kapag puro sabon na ang inaabot sa client sa pagmamadali matapos yung program;
2. Kung maiibabalik ko lang - kapag accidentally nabura yung buong program;
3. Walang sabit (sandara park) I kapag approved;
4. Somebody - kapag inabot ka na ng am sa office mag-isa sa kakadebug at kakafix ng program mo.

Hmmm... Pwede siguro to'ng new thread... Soundtrack ng mga programmer? O kaya, ano ang song mo para sa araw na toh. Hehehe!
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on June 28, 2012, 06:13:03 PM
^based on experience.. ang laging kinakanta ng mga dev pips ay "I did my best.. but I guess my best wasn't good enough.."
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: bobbylost on June 28, 2012, 06:16:04 PM
Quote from: marvinofthefaintsmile on June 28, 2012, 06:13:03 PM
^based on experience.. ang laging kinakanta ng mga dev pips ay "I did my best.. but I guess my best wasn't good enough.."
Hehehe! Sundan mo pa ng oldies OPM na "Saan? Saan ako nagkamaali...?"
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: jelo kid on June 28, 2012, 06:37:55 PM
bat ganun?student pa lang ako pero sumasakit na ulo ko sa pag'gawa ng systeM?

panu pa kaya pag nasa work na
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: bobbylost on June 28, 2012, 06:43:48 PM
Quote from: jelo kid on June 28, 2012, 06:37:55 PM
bat ganun?student pa lang ako pero sumasakit na ulo ko sa pag'gawa ng systeM?

panu pa kaya pag nasa work na
Mas madali pagnasa work ka na... Iba yung pressure sa school compared sa work... Pero there are times na sasakit din ulo mo sa work...
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: jelo kid on June 28, 2012, 06:52:29 PM
sa group kasi namin ako lang ang programmer..
san kaya pwede magtrabaho?
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: bobbylost on June 28, 2012, 06:58:30 PM
Quote from: jelo kid on June 28, 2012, 06:52:29 PM
sa group kasi namin ako lang ang programmer..
san kaya pwede magtrabaho?
Tiyagain mo lang. Advantage mo yan.
Naranasan ko na rin yan. Pagkagraduate naman, kanya kanya pa rin kayo eh.
At least pagdating mo sa interview, may makukwento ka and hindi lang basta kwento, kundi ikaw talaga gumawa.
Mas ok yung nagdevelop ka talaga kaysa supporting role ka lang.
Sobrang daming pwede mong pasukan. Minsan, ibang technology ipapagamit sayo pero may traiining naman.
Ang importante lang yung logic mo and diskarte.

Saang school ka pala brother?
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: jelo kid on June 28, 2012, 07:24:36 PM
mqapc skul ko, dito sa bulacaN.

anu nga pala ung SAP? narinig ko na yun dati sa skul.
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: bobbylost on June 28, 2012, 07:39:39 PM
ERP yan. Tapos yung programming language na ginagamit ABAP.
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: jelo kid on June 28, 2012, 07:59:08 PM
yun daw madalas ginagamit ngaun sa mga companies..

para saan pa kaya ung mga pnag'aaralan naming mga programming language?hahah.
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: bobbylost on June 28, 2012, 08:06:21 PM
Malalaman mo rin once magwork ka na. Training yan bro.
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Post by: jelo kid on June 28, 2012, 08:22:08 PM
hiraP kasi pag programing ang major subject pero wlang pc sa bahay..xD
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Post by: bobbylost on June 28, 2012, 08:24:41 PM
Ah, mahirap nga yan.
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: jelo kid on June 28, 2012, 08:25:41 PM
hiraP kasi pag programing ang major subject pero wlang pc sa bahay..xD
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: carpediem on June 28, 2012, 10:32:48 PM
Nako jelo kid, I disagree with bobbylost, masmahirap sa work.

At least when you're a student, you are just against the project deadline and yourself (your own competence). When you are at work, you are against the project schedule, your manager, your colleagues maybe, your clients and your users. You are also against the code -- because more than 90% of the time, the code is not written by you and you have to understand it; even if you wrote the code yourself but a long time has passed since, it might as well have the effect of being written by others.
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: bobbylost on June 28, 2012, 11:01:43 PM
Quote from: carpediem on June 28, 2012, 10:32:48 PM
Nako jelo kid, I disagree with bobbylost, masmahirap sa work.

At least when you're a student, you are just against the project deadline and yourself (your own competence). When you are at work, you are against the project schedule, your manager, your colleagues maybe, your clients and your users. You are also against the code -- because more than 90% of the time, the code is not written by you and you have to understand it; even if you wrote the code yourself but a long time has passed since, it might as well have the effect of being written by others.
Ahehe! Pang
Against all odds nga...
Yep. Agree. Pero huwag ka agad kabahan jelo.
This happens jelo kid, but not always. May mga phases naman yung isang project.
This scenarios from brother carpediem usually happens kung support/maintenance yung project.
Pero kung Implementation yung project, from scratch lahat ng development.

Yes, as a developer kasama lahat yan. Kaya importante rin na ang isang developer eh flexible and with good Debugging skills. Minsan, nirerewrite na lang para mas maayos. Siempre, kailangan din ng good communication skills. You have to learn how to deal with your lead, teammates and siempre clients. Lahat naman halos ng job meron nito. Kaya tinuturo rin yung time management, kasi kakailanganin mo rin toh once nagwork ka na

Again, case to case basis. Marami kasing factors:
Yung company, yung mga kasama mo, yung environment etc. So minsan madali, minsan nakakapagod din.
Basta ang importante, gusto mo talaga yung pinapasok mo. Otherwise, talagang magiging mahirap lahat sayo.

Pagnagwowork ka na, balikaan mo to'ng thread tapos share mo experience mo.
Kung may mga general questions ka, msg ka lang baka matulungan ka namin.

Good luck bro!
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: jelo kid on June 29, 2012, 04:29:14 PM
thanks siR carpediem at siR bobbylost..
-try ko dito mag'updaTe nung ginagawa naming(ako lang pala..haha) systeM..
msg ko kayo sakaling kailanganin ng tulonG.
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: jelo kid on July 08, 2012, 11:31:02 PM
tan0ng..
panu ba mag'normalize ng database??
sql gamit namin
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: bobbylost on July 09, 2012, 12:06:35 AM
Sa pagnonormalize ng tables, ang objective is to minimize redundancy.
Mas madali sana kung maiillustrate ko pero marami sa google. Type mo lang how to normalize database tables.
Example ng Hindi Normalize:
Table 1: Student
EmployeeId
Fname
Lname

Table2: Subject
EmployeeId
Fname
Lname
SubjectId
Subjectdesc

Normalize:
Table 1: Student
StudentId
Fname
Lname

Table 2: Subject
SubjectId
Subject

Table3: StudSubj
StudentId
SubjectId

Sa Ex2, everytime na may bagong subject si student, hindi mo kailangang iupdate lahat ng tables.
Ang kailangan mo lang iupdate is yung table3. All you have to do is add yung studentId and yung new subjectid  sa table2. Kapag naman may bagong subject, kahit wala pa'ng assignment sa student, pwede mo nang iupdate si Table2.

Mas maiintindihan mo kapag nilagyan mo ng sample data tong sample ko.
Minsan kasi mahirap magets pag table structure lang tinitingnan mo.
Practice din.

Hope this helps kahit papaano.

Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on July 09, 2012, 11:35:47 AM
merong mga tinatawag na normal forms.. bale 6 ito..
1st normal form
2nd normal form
3rd normal form
boyce-codd normal form
4th normal form
at fifth normal form.

bale meron itong mga rules kada form for normalization. dapat ma-meet mo sila like transitivity chenez for 3rd. so maglalaro ka ng mga foreign keys dito.
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: jelo kid on July 11, 2012, 09:57:05 PM
^di ko nagets!wahaha:D
btw,ahead yung project namin(akin lang pala) sa mga classmates ko..
eto palang nagagawa ko eh,
-login ng admin
-create poll,edit,update,delete
-create list of candidates(per poll),edit,delete,update
Title: Re: PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
Post by: jelo kid on August 17, 2012, 06:40:41 PM
NEW UPDATE.
finals pa pasahan ng project pero malapit na kami matapos(lapit na midterm).
salamat kasi dalawa kaming programmer sa grupo ko..
yun lang eh nasa critical stage na kami nung project which is yung voting process..