i mean there is nothing wrong with being vain
its just that some are getting overboard
is there an internal fear of men against women that is why they are doing this?
Is this part of surviving in a world where survival for the fittest reigns?
Are men trying to assert their position in the gender hierarchy of the society that is why they are becoming more inclined on beautifying themselves since becoming beautiful is synonymous to having a better career post (job)?
I want to hear your view on this haha :P
ano ba ito manong.. thesis na naman ba ito? wahahaha... hehe
masyado kasi superficial ang mga tao ngayon eh.. at mapamintas.. kaya susubukan mo talagang ayusin yung hitsura mo kahit papano...
Quote from: Ultraman Pao on March 22, 2009, 11:17:09 PM
ano ba ito manong.. thesis na naman ba ito? wahahaha... hehe
masyado kasi superficial ang mga tao ngayon eh.. at mapamintas.. kaya susubukan mo talagang ayusin yung hitsura mo kahit papano...
pao laughtrip ako dito hehe :D :-X
Quote from: Ultraman Pao on March 22, 2009, 11:17:09 PM
ano ba ito manong.. thesis na naman ba ito? wahahaha... hehe
masyado kasi superficial ang mga tao ngayon eh.. at mapamintas.. kaya susubukan mo talagang ayusin yung hitsura mo kahit papano...
Tapos na ko sa buhay thesis natanong ko lang naman wag kang epal hahahah peace :P
Quote from: Ultraman Pao on March 22, 2009, 11:17:09 PM
ano ba ito manong.. thesis na naman ba ito? wahahaha... hehe
masyado kasi superficial ang mga tao ngayon eh.. at mapamintas.. kaya susubukan mo talagang ayusin yung hitsura mo kahit papano...
pao! ;D natawa ako sa u. haha :D
ui easy lang wag mag-away mga pare.
on topic:
ok lang maging conscious sa looks. just don't overdo it na tipong talo mo pa babae.
may premise kasi dito na vain na innately ang mga males. at tinatanong kung natural lang ba iyon?
basta yung metrosexual, isang metro na lang, bakla na yun! :D
may mga lalakeng hindi vain..
Quote from: angelo on March 23, 2009, 12:15:55 AM
may premise kasi dito na vain na innately ang mga males. at tinatanong kung natural lang ba iyon?
basta yung metrosexual, isang metro na lang, bakla na yun! :D
may mga lalakeng hindi vain..
ur back kuya angelo.. o baka its proper to say.. Im back hahaha
yah pero kasi yung iba they feel like becoming more handsome makes them more powerful and dominant eh haha
ang lalakeng vain....
doubtful na ako sa ganyan....
peace sa mga super vain...
:D
opinion lang ....
Quote from: kilo on March 23, 2009, 04:12:32 AM
Dami nga akong nakikitang kids na sobrang detailed ng faux hawk, emo look nila.
Marami rin na praning sa pabango, gel, shirt, sapatos, watch, shades, kotse.
Meron pa nga diyan ayaw magpaaraw dahil ayaw umitim...
guilty ako sa ayaw magpaaraw kasi ayaw umitim. kahit maiitim ako ang greatest fear ko is umitim ang batok kasi pangit pag nagka gayon haha
Quote from: jorelle on March 23, 2009, 02:25:24 PM
Quote from: kilo on March 23, 2009, 04:12:32 AM
Dami nga akong nakikitang kids na sobrang detailed ng faux hawk, emo look nila.
Marami rin na praning sa pabango, gel, shirt, sapatos, watch, shades, kotse.
Meron pa nga diyan ayaw magpaaraw dahil ayaw umitim...
guilty ako sa ayaw magpaaraw kasi ayaw umitim. kahit maiitim ako ang greatest fear ko is umitim ang batok kasi pangit pag nagka gayon haha
ok lang sa akin yung umitim basta pantay. panget kasi kung may t-shirt tan or mga tsinelas tan. haha
Super natural yung pagiging vain (dapat makita niyo multiply site ko, 1000 pics of me being VAIN) lol
Quote from: Francis-J. on March 23, 2009, 08:18:31 PM
my opinion is,
media has a lot to do with this.
advertisements.
celebrities.
magaling silang mgcreate ng demand for
any product.
in this case, mga products na pamporma.
pampagwapo.
malaki influence nila on the people.
and tingin ko din, men being vain, is just a way
of keeping up with the changing times.
as time pass kase, naiiba ung mga standards ng tao.
nag eevolve ang fashion
what looked good before, di na ngayon.
more and better products na pampaganda or pampagwapo
ang naglalabasan.
naisip ko lang,
kung pwede na magdala ng vain na tao from any earlier
period, say 90's, dito sa 2009, macoconsider ba syang
vain by our generation's standards?
malamang mas tatawagin syang
baduy kesa vain.
hehe.
just my two cents. ;)
As i would quote in our own research
""Women are supposed to be the fairer sex, but Asian men are spending a lot of time and money on their looks.
Why? Because the girls like them that way" (Ling Liu, 2005). This denotes that the sector of the society, especially women dictated that men should act in such manner. Women made a communal agreement, subconsciously that they should see their men in such way (Ling Liu, 2005). This is maybe a very contentious idea because both sexes (male and female) may squabble and oppose the argument. But putting into context the idea of females being a stronger sex may really answer queries. However, this notion or idea will stir up other questions that may make the idea of Ling Liu litigious. Such questions may include: What is beauty in men? How do we qualify what is beautiful and what is not? Is beauty in all its facets actually debatable or arguable? Does the society differ in a myriad of grounds and that we also differ in defining such concept?
(Robles et al, 2009)It only goes to show that how men act today is a result of women's actions and conditions.
i just realized that while men are dominant. a female tool which is cosmetics has lured men to act in a manner where women are superior. haha
nakoo sorry for being henyostic hahaha
thanks a lot and im proud to say that it has reached the finals of the search for the best thesis of 2009 in FEU. haha our harworked has payed off.
ang title niya po actually is
Personal Constructs of Structured Social Classes
And Technologies of the Beautiful Men
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Oha Oha. hahahaha hope u cud read it dami niyo malalaman sa mundo ng pagpapagwapo ngayon haha
Eto ang mas malalang resulta ng statement ni kua kiks on the effect of media sa kagwapuhan
Beauty becomes a prison regardless of being a member of the minority gender, female or male, regardless of social class in the society. It imprisons the society of diffracted views of beauty. And consequently imprisons the selves of many people. It is done so because beauty becomes a requisite in attaining social acceptance (personal lives) and in the ascendancy to work. This was done so because the media could have dictated the definitions of beauty. Hence the society encapsulated the definition of beauty and modifies the perception of men. It becomes a hindrance to most men because they cannot access the things that they need like personal satisfaction and work.
Quote from: jorelle on March 23, 2009, 09:13:10 PM
Beauty becomes a prison regardless of being a member of the minority gender, female or male, regardless of social class in the society. It imprisons the society of diffracted views of beauty. And consequently imprisons the selves of many people. It is done so because beauty becomes a requisite in attaining social acceptance (personal lives) and in the ascendancy to work. This was done so because the media could have dictated the definitions of beauty. Hence the society encapsulated the definition of beauty and modifies the perception of men. It becomes a hindrance to most men because they cannot access the things that they need like personal satisfaction and work.
ang lungkot nito... parang pag di mo kasi nameet yung standards ng society of how beautiful/handsome appears to them eh pintas ang abot mo..
pero, like, sa showbiz kasi requirement ang maging pleasing to the eyes... ang hirap naman nun. wala namang perpekto eh.. hay nako.... parang nahihirapan akong huminga ngayon pa lang... ewan ko na
i must say its the sad reality
pano kung mahirap ka na nga tas panget ka pa san ka nalang pupulutin? sa kangkungan?
nakoo bakit ba manong ang tawag niyo sakin grabe iexterminate na ang nagpauso nito
Quote from: Ultraman Pao on March 23, 2009, 09:57:35 PM
Quote from: jorelle on March 23, 2009, 09:42:44 PM
nakoo bakit ba manong ang tawag niyo sakin grabe iexterminate na ang nagpauso nito
OT:
wala na akong sasabihin.. wala na akong kasalanan kung yan ang tawag nila sayo..
basta sa akin ikaw lang naman ang tinatawag kong manong.. wala naman akong ibig sabihin
dun, na matanda ko or kahit ano.
kung naiinis na kayo sa akin then wala na akong sasabihin para wala nang gulo.
magulo na ang mundo ko at ayoko na gumulo lalo.. peace be with you all.
OT too.
nakoo pao ang drama mo. ayos na nga ako sabi ko sa isang post. im cool. today is a brand new day and lets make peace not war.
mejo nagpantig lang kasi tenga ko kahapon kaya ayun pero now its all ok.
Ok IDOL kaya bati na tayo ah hahaha
TO ALL pede bang si IDOL PAO lang po tumawag sakin ng manong? kung pede lang po sana haha
Quote from: jorelle on March 23, 2009, 09:22:45 PM
i must say its the sad reality
pano kung mahirap ka na nga tas panget ka pa san ka nalang pupulutin? sa kangkungan?
if you have brains, you can reach heights!
i must say thats also true but appearance really do counts haha
Quote from: jorelle on March 23, 2009, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: Francis-J. on March 23, 2009, 08:18:31 PM
my opinion is,
media has a lot to do with this.
advertisements.
celebrities.
magaling silang mgcreate ng demand for
any product.
in this case, mga products na pamporma.
pampagwapo.
malaki influence nila on the people.
and tingin ko din, men being vain, is just a way
of keeping up with the changing times.
as time pass kase, naiiba ung mga standards ng tao.
nag eevolve ang fashion
what looked good before, di na ngayon.
more and better products na pampaganda or pampagwapo
ang naglalabasan.
naisip ko lang,
kung pwede na magdala ng vain na tao from any earlier
period, say 90's, dito sa 2009, macoconsider ba syang
vain by our generation's standards?
malamang mas tatawagin syang
baduy kesa vain.
hehe.
just my two cents. ;)
As i would quote in our own research
""Women are supposed to be the fairer sex, but Asian men are spending a lot of time and money on their looks. Why? Because the girls like them that way" (Ling Liu, 2005). This denotes that the sector of the society, especially women dictated that men should act in such manner. Women made a communal agreement, subconsciously that they should see their men in such way (Ling Liu, 2005). This is maybe a very contentious idea because both sexes (male and female) may squabble and oppose the argument. But putting into context the idea of females being a stronger sex may really answer queries. However, this notion or idea will stir up other questions that may make the idea of Ling Liu litigious. Such questions may include: What is beauty in men? How do we qualify what is beautiful and what is not? Is beauty in all its facets actually debatable or arguable? Does the society differ in a myriad of grounds and that we also differ in defining such concept? (Robles et al, 2009)
It only goes to show that how men act today is a result of women's actions and conditions.
i just realized that while men are dominant. a female tool which is cosmetics has lured men to act in a manner where women are superior. haha
yes true to its sense. bottomline, it is the men in society who need to please the female counterparts to actually win them over. Maybe... the end goal is to procreate. Men can only win their heart if they are noticed - to get noticed, appearance serves a big chunk. isnt it?
Quote from: jorelle on March 23, 2009, 10:53:53 PM
i must say thats also true but appearance really do counts haha
of course it will count!
the only point here is that its neither the end of the world nor being fetched in a kangkungan if you dont have the "acceptable" appearance or money for that matter.
ninonose bleed ako kay kuya angelo. btw i have never got the chace to thank you for becoming one of our key informant sa research namin, same as to kuya marfz and kuya jon hahaha :P. as a proof eto oh
Furthermore, many thanks are extended to the following men from the different social class: The upper class; Mr. Loreto Arenas, Atty. Richard Clarin and Rep. Robbie Puno: The upper middle class; Mr. John Cundangan, Professor James Saguinsin and Mr. Angelo: The lower middle class; Mr. Jon Aguilar, Mr. Djaindhel Catre, Mr. Christian (secret surname haha) and Mr. John Michael Vergara: The upper working class; Mr. Rommel Gineta, Glenn Del Rosario and Mr. Marvin Piano: The lower working class; Mr. Verly Alviar, Mr. Clifford De Dios and Mr. Nelson Supan: The underclass; Mr. Danny Balbayan, Mr. Reynaldo Dizen and Mr. Marco Reyes.
ayaw mo kasi sabihin po surname mo eh haha
you are welcome. as ive said before, i hope the inputs were indeed helpful.
may mga comments lang sana ako pero huwag na lang. anyway tapos na ang thesis. laya na!
@ jorelle
no prob.. ok lang un..
pero favor naman paki edit un post pakitanggal na lang un surname ko sa post mo.. grabe parang nun friday lang tinatanong nila JL at kuya kiko un buong pangalan ko.. so ayun.. pa-edit na lang jorelle.. thanks! ;)
^ yes we do not have to name names. AMEN to that.
Is dyeing my hair golden brown considered vain? Kasi kakadye ko lng nun sunday. Dami tuloy tingin sakin na chicks :D
Quote from: ReCharge on March 24, 2009, 11:30:32 PM
Is dyeing my hair golden brown considered vain? Kasi kakadye ko lng nun sunday. Dami tuloy tingin sakin na chicks :D
tingin naman! ;D
Is it NATURAL?
I think No.. yun lang ;D
I don't think coloring your hair is a form of vanity??! Cguro pag nagpapahair-spa ka or kung ano anong treatment ang ginagawa mo sa hair...dun mo masasabing vain ka...
Quote from: -marfz- on March 24, 2009, 12:27:12 AM
@ jorelle
no prob.. ok lang un..
pero favor naman paki edit un post pakitanggal na lang un surname ko sa post mo.. grabe parang nun friday lang tinatanong nila JL at kuya kiko un buong pangalan ko.. so ayun.. pa-edit na lang jorelle.. thanks! ;)
as requested ni edit ko na po haha
Quote from: Dumont on March 25, 2009, 01:26:27 PM
Is it NATURAL?
I think No.. yun lang ;D
what a plain comment hahah
Quote from: jorelle on March 26, 2009, 12:25:00 AM
Quote from: -marfz- on March 24, 2009, 12:27:12 AM
@ jorelle
no prob.. ok lang un..
pero favor naman paki edit un post pakitanggal na lang un surname ko sa post mo.. grabe parang nun friday lang tinatanong nila JL at kuya kiko un buong pangalan ko.. so ayun.. pa-edit na lang jorelle.. thanks! ;)
as requested ni edit ko na po haha
thank you so much ( ala mariel rodriguez pronounciation) ;D
jorelle,
ano yung definition mo ng vain?
marami yan.
1. may vain na tipong tingin lagi ng tingin sa sarili sa salamin a.k.a "narcissistic"
2. meron din yung daming ginagawa sa sarili para lang sa looks
3. meron rin yun magaling at mahilig lang talaga pumorma at magdala ng damit.
VAIN = Ugat ;D
****sorry ot aq :P
Quote from: Chris on March 26, 2009, 12:34:31 AM
jorelle,
ano yung definition mo ng vain?
marami yan.
1. may vain na tipong tingin lagi ng tingin sa sarili sa salamin a.k.a "narcissistic"
2. meron din yung daming ginagawa sa sarili para lang sa looks
3. meron rin yun magaling at mahilig lang talaga pumorma at magdala ng damit.
the definition of "vainess" (is there such a term haha) varies upon the person. it depends upon his personal ideology and perspective.
Personally i define vain as those who possess a combination of number 1 and 2, which is being a narcissistic and maarte in terms of having products to spruce him up.
that's my own definition of vain, i don't know the others.
mga Ka-PGG
how do you define a vain man haha?
^ id go for #2.
no.3 is sexy delikado ung 1. :D
i go for # 3...
Quote from: gslide on March 29, 2009, 02:41:30 AM
no.3 is sexy delikado ung 1. :D
Parang naapektohan ako dun ha haha :)
i go for #3 also. Iam not so addict to try and try all the new vanity for men. If it is not fit on me I do not try them.
it depends when vanity turns out to be narcissism-too much love for self. you adore yourself, you find yourself beautiful, and since your defined beauty could only be found to a same sex.. get the point?
Is it natural for men to be vain? --- WHY NOT?
Quote from: david on March 22, 2009, 11:41:50 PM
on topic:
ok lang maging conscious sa looks. just don't overdo it na tipong talo mo pa babae.
IMO, best answer..
being natural is relative... i say men who are vain choose to be vain... either through necessity or sheer kaartehan.
i'm gay but i'm not vain... the vain-est i can get is looking at myself in the mirror any time possible. aside from that, i think i don't have anything else to consider me vain for. :)
Quote from: out_and_proud on April 28, 2010, 06:55:01 PM
being natural is relative... i say men who are vain choose to be vain... either through necessity or sheer kaartehan.
i'm gay but i'm not vain... the vain-est i can get is looking at myself in the mirror any time possible. aside from that, i think i don't have anything else to consider me vain for. :)
.....hi out and proud welcome to PGG..... :D di masyado halata ang username mo for what you are ;D.....post lang ng post.....
Quote from: pinoybrusko on May 03, 2010, 05:58:08 PM
Quote from: out_and_proud on April 28, 2010, 06:55:01 PM
being natural is relative... i say men who are vain choose to be vain... either through necessity or sheer kaartehan.
i'm gay but i'm not vain... the vain-est i can get is looking at myself in the mirror any time possible. aside from that, i think i don't have anything else to consider me vain for. :)
.....hi out and proud welcome to PGG..... :D di masyado halata ang username mo for what you are ;D.....post lang ng post.....
thanks pinoybrusko! :)
it's by choice. period.
There's nothing wrong with being vain and conscious. We also need to take care of ourselves bros! Be confident like boss Ramon! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVnuP7YtW7w