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Title: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: Hitad on March 06, 2011, 09:42:15 AM
As the title says  :)
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: judE_Law on March 06, 2011, 01:12:01 PM
opinyon ko lang po ulit ha.. ;D

Pinahinto ang Bataan Nuclear Plant dahil malaki ang galit ni Aquino kay Marcos. Ginatungan na lang ng kung anu-anong kuwento ng kurakot at pandarambong para mas lalong mahinto at huwag nang buksan ang planta, pero, ipinasa ni Aquino sa mahihirap ang pagbabayad nito sa Amerika. Gaya ng Ginawa ni Erap sa Expo Filipino, ipinasara niya ito dahil iyon ay isa sa naiwang legacy ni Ramos.. kinansela rin ang nakatakda sanang World Expo sa bansa. Inakusahan din ng Korupsiyon pero wala namang nangyari.

Ganyan talaga kapag pinairal ang poot, at hindi ang pagmamahal sa bayan at susunod na henerasyon.

Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: Hitad on March 06, 2011, 01:45:43 PM
^
true mukhang galit nga ang dahilan.
suddenly may nakita akong video, I don't know if it was Marcos who was speaking though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLShlMhclTY&feature=related
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: judE_Law on March 06, 2011, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Hitad on March 06, 2011, 01:45:43 PM
^
true mukhang galit nga ang dahilan.
suddenly may nakita akong video, I don't know if it was Marcos who was speaking though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLShlMhclTY&feature=related

hmmm... mahirap paniwalaan yung boses kung si Macoy nga..
pero maganda yung mensahe.
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: Rainmate on March 07, 2011, 07:41:46 PM
Aside from that reasons presented above, I also think the government looked into the case of Chernobyl. Yung nagkaroon ng leak sa isang nuclear plant in Chernobyl in Ukraine. A super major nuclear disaster happened there in April of 1986. Many people died as the nuclear stuff traveled borders through WIND. :(

Siguro natakot din tayo dun since the moment something wrong happens in bataan, pati yung waters natin damay. :|
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: pinoybrusko on March 08, 2011, 01:02:19 AM
safety and environmental issues ang main reason for its closure
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: Hitad on March 08, 2011, 12:13:30 PM
If that was the case sayang naman. Japan meron din silang nuclear plant.

Sayang din yung ginastos na inabot ng bilyong dolyares.
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: pinoybrusko on March 08, 2011, 04:50:57 PM
hinde sayang yun. Mas importante ang safety at buhay ng mga tao na malapit sa vicinity ng Bataan Nuclear Plant. Hinde pa tayo ganun ka ready to secure 100% safe ang Nuclear Plant. Besides may environmental issues din ito that will affect the living organisms in the sea and will pollute the area as well.

Tama, Ang Bataan Plant ang magreresolve ng power defficiency sa pinas, pero hinde lang ang factor na ito ang dapat na ikonsider.
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: Hitad on March 08, 2011, 05:15:29 PM
Sayang yun kasi more than 2 billion dollars paid to Westinghouse yung nagastos. Hindi naman sila gagastos ng malaki kung walang patutunguhan and I believe they've conducted various researches for it to develop. We have lots of things that are bad for the environment such as the vehicles.
Iisang nuclear plant lang yan compared to other countries na inaabot ng 2 digits.

Ang dami ng nasayang like Meralco.
Pati nga ngayon yung mrt at lrt baka privatize na.
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: judE_Law on March 08, 2011, 11:01:37 PM
here are some of the countries na mayroong nuclear power:

Argentina
Armenia
Belgium
Brazil
Bulgaria
Canada
China (PRC)
Czech Republic
Finland
France
Germany
Hungary
India
Japan
Korea, South (ROK)
Mexico
Netherlands
Pakistan
Romania
Russia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Croatia
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Taiwan (ROC)
Ukraine
United Kingdom
United States

karamihan sa mga bansa na ito ay mauunlad...
sa tingin ko hindi safety at environmental issue ang dahilan ng pagsasara ng Bataan Nuclear Power PLant.. besides, andiyan na yan eh, ginastusan na, so bakit kailangan pang ipasara?

Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: Hitad on March 09, 2011, 09:17:06 AM
<double post>
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: Hitad on March 09, 2011, 09:23:03 AM
Well as they say, there may be disadvantage in any given option. If we choose to live without oil then some people would go bankrupt, lose their jobs etc. while choosing the other one can also lead to  such disadvantages given this source: http://www.brighthub.com/environment/renewable-energy/articles/7730.aspx

Marami na din tayong hydroelectric powerplants. Given the war thingy, it is inevitable na may mamatay at nasa konstitusyon na rin ng bansang Pilipinas na hindi tayo makikisabak sa anumang klaseng gyera.

Wala naman sa isip ko na ipagpatuloy ito pero dahil pinahinto ito kung kailan malapit na siyang matapos ay parang wirdo yata.
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: Hitad on March 09, 2011, 09:20:05 PM
Quote from: Kilo 1000 on March 09, 2011, 08:15:41 PM

Teka paclarify lang...
What war?
and what do you mean by the inevitable death?
hinde ko gets yung relationship nya with the hydroelectric power plant...


Quote from: Kilo 1000 on March 08, 2011, 11:44:48 PM
And would you give that responsibility to the current administrations?? of course not. What more kung magkaroon ng war... all the enemy needs to do is bomb the power plant and poof goes manila with radiation. Too risky.

Di ko sigurp na emphasize ng maayos.
--

Okay sige we will conclude na itong pangyaayring ito ay dulot ng "kamalasan".
My query is solved. I will leave up to the more curious ones.
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: eLgimiker0 on March 10, 2011, 06:55:48 PM
singit lang ah


Marcos - Media Blackout
Aquino - National Brownout
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: pinoybrusko on March 13, 2011, 05:41:05 PM
even if Japan and other countries are more sure 100% to secure their nuclear plants, ibang usapan na pag tinamaan ng natural phenomenon like earthquakes and the like.

so, siguro naman malinaw na ang meaning ng safety and environmental issues tungkol sa pagclose ng Bataan Plant  ;D

Ipangalandakan niyo pa ang mga developed countries using this type of power source  :P kahit ang Japan walang magawa sa earthquake
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: Iyzman02 on March 14, 2011, 05:19:34 PM
"Wala tayong sapat na kakayahan para magmaintain ng isang nuclear plant" sabi nila... parati namang issue ang budget...instead na mag-focus ang gobyerno sa bangayan tungkol sa energy issues, bkit hindi nila pagtuunan ng pansin kung papaano mapapabuti o mapapagana ng safe ang nuclear plant, para masolve ang walang humpay na problema natin sa kuryente...tama si marcos, (kahit hindi ako maka-marcos), 20 years starting from the year na sinabi nya un bagsak na ang Mahal kong Pilipinas.

Think about how Marcos make the Philippines as the "Most powerful country in Asia"! Ngun nasan tyo?kasi kontrahan ng kontrahan ano nangyari? hanggang ngun wala....

Mabubulok na lang ang planta ng hindi napagana, sayang ang pondo... Sana dumating ang time na mapagana ng maayos yang nuclear plant natin... Hindi lang naman isang tao mag-be-benefits nito, tayong lahat na nasa Pinas...
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: jamapi on March 14, 2011, 05:59:44 PM
alam ni cory ang nangyari sa hills have eyes at saka sa wrong turn. magiging cannibal ang makakalanghap ng nuclear radiation.  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: Hitad on March 14, 2011, 08:57:16 PM
Quote from: pinoybrusko on March 13, 2011, 05:41:05 PM
even if Japan and other countries are more sure 100% to secure their nuclear plants, ibang usapan na pag tinamaan ng natural phenomenon like earthquakes and the like.

so, siguro naman malinaw na ang meaning ng safety and environmental issues tungkol sa pagclose ng Bataan Plant  ;D

Ipangalandakan niyo pa ang mga developed countries using this type of power source  :P kahit ang Japan walang magawa sa earthquake

Okay. Tignan natin ang Japan ngayon kung itutuloy nila ang kanilang Nuclear tools. We'll see if this is a warning to them or if their necessities can overcome that catastrophic warning.
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: judE_Law on March 15, 2011, 11:49:21 PM
Quote from: Hitad on March 14, 2011, 08:57:16 PM
Quote from: pinoybrusko on March 13, 2011, 05:41:05 PM
even if Japan and other countries are more sure 100% to secure their nuclear plants, ibang usapan na pag tinamaan ng natural phenomenon like earthquakes and the like.

so, siguro naman malinaw na ang meaning ng safety and environmental issues tungkol sa pagclose ng Bataan Plant  ;D

Ipangalandakan niyo pa ang mga developed countries using this type of power source  :P kahit ang Japan walang magawa sa earthquake

Okay. Tignan natin ang Japan ngayon kung itutuloy nila ang kanilang Nuclear tools. We'll see if this is a warning to them or if their necessities can overcome that catastrophic warning.

its not just Japan.. tignan din natin ang iba pang bansa kung itutuloy pa rin ba nila yung sa kanila..
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: carpediem on March 16, 2011, 12:14:11 AM
^ Report has it that Germany is shutting down pre-1980 plants.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/15/germany-nuclear-idUSLDE72E17620110315
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: judE_Law on March 16, 2011, 12:27:33 AM
Quote from: carpediem on March 16, 2011, 12:14:11 AM
^ Report has it that Germany is shutting down pre-1980 plants.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/15/germany-nuclear-idUSLDE72E17620110315

that's pre-1980 what about yung iba?
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: carpediem on March 16, 2011, 12:35:06 AM
^ It seems to be more political than just plain safety considerations.
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: carpediem on March 16, 2011, 01:01:27 AM
Related post http://www.pinoyguyguide.com/forums/index.php?topic=2084.msg116624#msg116624 where I posted the safety features of a nuclear plant.

They say that nuclear plants are actually statistically safer than coal and diesel. There are actually more people who died of accidents related to coal and diesel plants. These are just few although more frequent but less reported. The environmental impact of coal and diesel related accidents (e.g. oil spill) are also comparable to radioactive damage from nuclear accidents.

Granted, the question is if the safety standards of the BNPP can withstand high-intensity quakes and tsunamis. And this being in the Philippines, ignorance, indolence, and mediocrity must also be taken into consideration.
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: judE_Law on March 16, 2011, 01:06:41 PM
Quote from: carpediem on March 16, 2011, 12:35:06 AM
^ It seems to be more political than just plain safety considerations.


that's what i'm actually trying to point sa topic na 'to. wala lang.
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on September 20, 2012, 08:22:15 AM
tapos ibinigay ng aquino sa lopez ang meralco at ang bunga nito ay nagtaas ang ating bayarin sa kuryente..

samantala..

si marcos eh ibinigay nya sa gobyerno ang meralco at ang bunga nito ay mababang singil sa kuryente..

sino ngayon ang pahirap sa bayan?
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: Lanchie on October 02, 2012, 05:28:18 AM
Masyadong marming factors to consider.

The question would always be: Can we maintain a nuclear power plant safely?
Title: Re: Bakit pinahinto ni Cory Aquino ang bataan nuclear plant?
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on July 08, 2022, 12:42:54 PM
Well, sana buhayin ulit. White Westinghouse ang gumawa ng Bataan nuclear power plant. We all know that is a famous international brand. Epekto nito: magiging masmura ang kuryente natin.

Unfortunately, gumagamit ng petrolyo ang Meralco kaya kung tumaas ang presyo nito na nangyayari ngayon, tataas din ang singil nila.