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Poll
Question: Are you in favor of capital punishment/death sentence/death penalty?
Option 1: Hell yeah! Death to all the wicked and the damned!
Option 2: Hell no! Only the heavens have the right to claim lives!
Option 3: Meh. Who cares? I'll just shoot my gut after I raped my dream chick.
Title: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: sayonara on January 15, 2013, 08:27:33 AM
Let's make it purely opinionated and not personal.  :)
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on January 15, 2013, 10:01:21 AM
Quote from: sayonara on January 15, 2013, 08:27:33 AM
Let's make it purely opinionated and not personal.  :)

ang gusto ko eh public execution
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Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: sayonara on January 15, 2013, 11:05:45 AM
^hmm. why is that? we're out of the victorian age. no need for "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" philosophy.

imo people are being deceived that death penalty is the worst punishment.  ::)
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on January 17, 2013, 10:26:52 AM
^but I luv it!
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: lelouch on January 17, 2013, 11:23:46 AM
tingin ko dapat ibalik!!! mga kriminal kasi ngayon, labas pasok sa prisinto hindi na natututo

pero syempre yung mahahatulan yung malalaki/malalala at paulet ulet na kaso
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: sayonara on January 17, 2013, 03:14:40 PM
^yun nga eh. the more reason na wag ibalik ang death penalty.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on January 17, 2013, 05:50:21 PM
Quote from: sayonara on January 17, 2013, 03:14:40 PM
^yun nga eh. the more reason na wag ibalik ang death penalty.

^parang anlabo..
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: lelouch on January 17, 2013, 06:48:05 PM
^ nga eh...
bakit wag ibabalik??
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on January 17, 2013, 06:52:41 PM
baka slight age-gap kea dq magets..
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: sayonara on January 17, 2013, 08:25:58 PM
lol i mean otherwise. sorry

the capital punishment, popularly known as the death penalty, is often misunderstood by many. eto ah: kung ako ang kamag-anak ng isang biktima ng rape, ang tendency ng karamihan is mas gusto kong maparusahan siya ng death sentence, right? pero my perspective is different. DEATH IS THE EASIEST ESCAPE. death is the payment for all sins committed. kung agad-agad siyang mapaparusahan ng kamatayan, bayad na siya sa kasalanan niya, diba? eh ang gusto ko, as a loving family of a rape victim, pagdanasan niya lahat ng hirap na puwede niyang danasin. life sentence WITHOUT parole is the worst punishment for me. kung hahayaan ko na lang na masentensyahan siya ng capital punishment, I WILL JUST MAKE THINGS TOO EASY FOR HIM. NO HASSLE. NO HARDSHIPS. NO PAIN. after death, he's no more. and i don't want that. i want him to suffer while he live a life of ultimate pain.


that's my point.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on January 18, 2013, 11:30:28 AM
^hmm.. so you want torture instead?

well, 100 years ago in china 20th century, ang death penalty doon ay tinatawag na "death by a thousand cuts". bale of course, nakapublic execution ito noh. so hubo't hubad kang kakaladkarin sa gitna ng town square tapos doon ay hihiwain ka nang paunti-unti. walang anistisya ito ah. dadanasin mo ang pinakamabagal na oras at pinakamasakit na pwedeng mangyari sayo sa boong buhay mo. bali, to make the story short. kapag ikaw ay 1,000 separate pieces na or menudo/mechado/caldereta cut. doon lang iyon ititigil. It's not an easy escape..

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because of its extreme brutality, this was abolished on 1905. ba't ba bgla qng naicp c daddy monch, etchos.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: sayonara on January 18, 2013, 01:54:04 PM
he may experienced pain that we can't ever comprehend the feeling of, but i don't want a suffering in a period of a day, or a week, or a month, or even a year. i want every criminal in the world to live a life like hell in their entire lifetime. that alone could justify crimes like rape, murder, or homicide.

please, don't think i'm a sadist, cause i'm not... yet.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on January 18, 2013, 02:05:57 PM
^well.. sadly to say, ur ideas cannot be put on reality.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: sayonara on January 18, 2013, 02:22:08 PM
^sadly, people are deceived that death will put the wicked to eternal state of punishment. the reality you're telling is... the other way around.  :(


so no to death penalty.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: arjay on January 18, 2013, 02:37:29 PM
Quote from: marvinofthefaintsmile on January 18, 2013, 11:30:28 AM
^hmm.. so you want torture instead?

well, 100 years ago in china 20th century, ang death penalty doon ay tinatawag na "death by a thousand cuts". bale of course, nakapublic execution ito noh. so hubo't hubad kang kakaladkarin sa gitna ng town square tapos doon ay hihiwain ka nang paunti-unti. walang anistisya ito ah. dadanasin mo ang pinakamabagal na oras at pinakamasakit na pwedeng mangyari sayo sa boong buhay mo. bali, to make the story short. kapag ikaw ay 1,000 separate pieces na or menudo/mechado/caldereta cut. doon lang iyon ititigil. It's not an easy escape..

(https://www.pinoyguyguide.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_3PiMWiXI5ks%2FShN-yrB70MI%2FAAAAAAAAAT0%2FI44rJk1xJP0%2Fs400%2F250_0905190106056T_1_%255B1%255D.jpg&hash=6a316883c490ff4e856760472c58c9f4aa7e47cc)

because of its extreme brutality, this was abolished on 1905. ba't ba bgla qng naicp c daddy monch, etchos.

Ang alam ko pre, pinapainom pa sila dito ng metamorphine bago isagawa yung 'penalty' na yan eh. Papainumin sila hanggang sa maulol. Kaya yung iba kahit tinatapyasan na eh tumatawa pa din. Di ko matandaan kung metamorphine. Basta opium. Bangis lang!
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on January 18, 2013, 02:46:23 PM
^ung sa opium na part.. bali isa yung form ng suhol. karaniwan itong ginagawa ng mga kamag-anak ng i-e-e-xecute. ang siste ay bibigyan mo ng pera yung executioner kapalit ng pagpapakain nya ng opium sa kriminal/kapamilya, pwede nyang gilitan na kagad sa leeg ang biktima para hindi na ito mahirapan at mamatay kaagad.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: Derric on January 18, 2013, 07:37:22 PM
Approve sakin yang death penalty, kaso the justice system in this country is kind of, broken. I have a friend na pinatay ng uncle nya, nahuli naman. With evidence, the gun he used, get away car, then may witnessses pa, 9 months from now, nasa prison parin ung criminal na un then hindi pa hinatulan ng guilty kasi mapera at magaling ung attorney nya.  Anong klaseng justice yan. :(

Kayang kaya baliktarin ng kung sino man ang justice system, pwedeng ipang blackmail. The reason why marami parin ang ayaw sa death penalty.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: lelouch on January 19, 2013, 04:25:24 PM
Kahit naman ikulong mo sila hanggang sa kamatayan nila... at some point death penalty rin yun diba? kasi isipin mo nabubuhay nga sila sa loob ng kulungan ngunit di nila naeenjoy ang life(kahit di nila deserve...)
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: sayonara on January 19, 2013, 04:46:11 PM
^what you said is worse than instant death, actually. that's what i want.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: Derric on January 19, 2013, 05:25:34 PM
Quote from: lelouch on January 19, 2013, 04:25:24 PM
Kahit naman ikulong mo sila hanggang sa kamatayan nila... at some point death penalty rin yun diba? kasi isipin mo nabubuhay nga sila sa loob ng kulungan ngunit di nila naeenjoy ang life(kahit di nila deserve...)

Not everyone in prison. Look at Rolito Go and other high profile criminals - buhay senyorito sa kulungan, may tv, electric fan at may nalalaman pang pa-check up sa dentist.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: superosmdummi on January 19, 2013, 08:09:13 PM
I believe that everybody has the ability to change as a person. Meaning kapag nakagawa ako ng isang malaking kasalanan it's up to me kung I will repent it and be a better man than I was before or stay as a fucking criminal. But that doesn't mean na against ako sa death penalty. I actually approve of it, pero syempre with exemptions. I'll give you a scenario... for example I committed murder and yun yung first ever crime na ginawa ko, I got very depressed with what I have done, I repented, and I want to change... Yes I will willingly accept the consequences of my actions and do my time pero once na makalaya ako I will never ever repeat the things that I've done and I will become a better man; pero if di ako nagsisi, nakalaya ako, and I've done things I never really regret dun dapat papasok ang death penalty.


Death penalty for me are for those criminals who doesn't want to change themselves and decided to stay as criminals for the rest of their lives.


(feeling ko ang gulo talaga ng utak ko)
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: joshgroban on January 21, 2013, 12:25:39 AM
siguro pwede in\balik pero dapat yung  mga nag eexecute ng justice maging righteous muna kasu useless din... sino walang kasalanan sya unang bumato  ...kaso lahat naman makasalan...
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: sayonara on January 21, 2013, 01:02:27 AM
Quote from: superosmdummi on January 19, 2013, 08:09:13 PM
I believe that everybody has the ability to change as a person. Meaning kapag nakagawa ako ng isang malaking kasalanan it's up to me kung I will repent it and be a better man than I was before or stay as a fucking criminal. But that doesn't mean na against ako sa death penalty. I actually approve of it, pero syempre with exemptions. I'll give you a scenario... for example I committed murder and yun yung first ever crime na ginawa ko, I got very depressed with what I have done, I repented, and I want to change... Yes I will willingly accept the consequences of my actions and do my time pero once na makalaya ako I will never ever repeat the things that I've done and I will become a better man; pero if di ako nagsisi, nakalaya ako, and I've done things I never really regret dun dapat papasok ang death penalty.


Death penalty for me are for those criminals who doesn't want to change themselves and decided to stay as criminals for the rest of their lives.


(feeling ko ang gulo talaga ng utak ko)

no you've actually made your point. and i think it's also a con of the capital punishment. i'm a biblical person, so i read the bible, and as far as i know, the judgement for those horrendous criminals are will come from God. no man has the right to claim lives. death penalty is no exemption. kaya nga the worst punishment is a life sentence w/o parole. live a life like hell (although no real hell exists, well, that would be a matter of another debate), while waiting for the judgement that will be brought upon you.


this is completely imo
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: sayonara on January 22, 2013, 06:40:27 PM
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the perfect punishment for rapists.


but looking at them ouch. my penis being eaten by rats.  :-X
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: Derric on January 22, 2013, 07:51:14 PM
^
Pwede!!  ;D

Pero para sakin mas malupit kung ang parusa sa rapist ay ipare-rape sya sa bading o kung ano mang hayop until he die, Hehehe

Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: sayonara on January 23, 2013, 01:13:24 AM
puwede rin? iparanas sa kanya ang ginawa niya sa iba.


oh the pain of being raped while saying to yourself, "i'm a rapist, why am i being raped?" his ego will never recover lol
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on January 24, 2013, 05:04:58 PM
haynako.. kung death penalty dpat meron nitong instant sa mga Customs, BIR, at Senado para tumino sila.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: geo on January 28, 2013, 10:13:59 PM
I vote yes BUT, i think baguhin muna ang justice system.... Remember na buhay ang kukunin natin. Just like what Senator Santiago said during her speech sa Corona trial before she gave her vote, She said that Impeachment is a kind of punishment kung saan sisirain mo ang buhay at dangal ng isang tao. Kailangan, beyond reasonable doubt. Walang bahid ng pagdududa para mo sabihin na guilty...

Ganun din dapat sa death penalty.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: kolokoy on February 11, 2013, 04:35:06 PM
I like this thread.

My take, a resounding no. I am not religious, but Our Creator has the only right to terminate our contract here on Earth.

However, I like the idea na eye for an eye. Pero pag may pinatay, sya wag death ung kapalit. Itapon sa Pacific Ocean. Pag naka survive ka, you keep your life. Tsaka dapat this should be done in public para matakot na gumawa ng crime. Para di tularan. Unahin natin ang convicted government officials to eradicate corruption.  :o ;D
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: sayonara on February 12, 2013, 04:55:48 PM
Quote from: kolokoy on February 11, 2013, 04:35:06 PM
I like this thread.

My take, a resounding no. I am not religious, but Our Creator has the only right to terminate our contract here on Earth.

However, I like the idea na eye for an eye. Pero pag may pinatay, sya wag death ung kapalit. Itapon sa Pacific Ocean. Pag naka survive ka, you keep your life. Tsaka dapat this should be done in public para matakot na gumawa ng crime. Para di tularan. Unahin natin ang convicted government officials to eradicate corruption.  :o ;D

wow parang pirates of the caribbean
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: Jon on March 13, 2013, 07:42:11 AM
YES YES YES
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: Ryker on March 25, 2017, 07:38:48 PM
This 2017? YES... But a true justice will be prevailed.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: jackxtwist on July 12, 2018, 04:43:15 AM
I think death penalty in the Philippines is just another bandaid solution to the problems. We are curing the symptoms, not the cause itself.

Patayin ang kriminal dahil labas-masok sa kulungan? Dahil bulok ang sistema ng korte? Eh di ayusin natin ang justice system.

Bakit ba maraming kriminal. Kasi sila ay biologically-inclined at na-trigger ng environmental factors. Ano yung mga environmental factors: bad parenting, bad neighborhood, bad schooling, bad school policies, bad health policies, bad economic policies, etc. Di ba ang daming dapat ayusin?

Kaya maraming pabor sa tukhang. It's an easy way out.

We like death penalty because it's easy. And that's what we Filipinos want, electorate and elected alike. Just an easy way out. Masabi lang na may nagawa.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: blueboi on July 20, 2018, 03:27:51 PM
Quote from: jackxtwist on July 12, 2018, 04:43:15 AM
I think death penalty in the Philippines is just another bandaid solution to the problems. We are curing the symptoms, not the cause itself.

Patayin ang kriminal dahil labas-masok sa kulungan? Dahil bulok ang sistema ng korte? Eh di ayusin natin ang justice system.

Bakit ba maraming kriminal. Kasi sila ay biologically-inclined at na-trigger ng environmental factors. Ano yung mga environmental factors: bad parenting, bad neighborhood, bad schooling, bad school policies, bad health policies, bad economic policies, etc. Di ba ang daming dapat ayusin?

Kaya maraming pabor sa tukhang. It's an easy way out.

We like death penalty because it's easy. And that's what we Filipinos want, electorate and elected alike. Just an easy way out. Masabi lang na may nagawa.

sad reality, but i agree to this.

plus, hindi ko ipagkakatiwala sa current justice system natin ang buhay ng kahit sino. i mean, hindi bago ang mistrial sa pilipinas. someone can just frame you up, pay off the judges, and voila, they get you killed the legal way. problem with death penalty is it is irreversible. so pag nagkamali, sorry na lang. e tao lang din naman ang mga hukom at pwedeng magkamali. in that case, hindi na natin maibabalik yung buhay ng isang inosenteng bata. also this:

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/mother-of-beheaded-taipei-girl-moves-taiwanese-with-loving-message-call-for-calm

nakakatuwa lang na yung nanay ng pinatay, sya pa yung nananawagang kumalma ang mga tao.

"This is not a problem that can be solved by passing a law," she said. "I hope we can address the problem from its root, from the perspective of family and education, so that there will no longer be people like him (the perpetrator) in our society."

she understands the problem, and knows that the death penalty is not a solution. i hope we see things through the same lenses. and solve problems at the roots, not just address it's symptoms.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: matteo do on August 17, 2018, 10:41:47 AM
Quote from: marvinofthefaintsmile on January 15, 2013, 10:01:21 AM
Quote from: sayonara on January 15, 2013, 08:27:33 AM
Let's make it purely opinionated and not personal.  :)

ang gusto ko eh public execution
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Ito yung mas maganda public execution. haha para makita ng sambayanan. Mas prefer ang death penalty na sunugin ng buhay ang criminal para di sila dagdag sa sementeryo. haha
Quote from: Derric on January 22, 2013, 07:51:14 PM
^
Pwede!!  ;D

Pero para sakin mas malupit kung ang parusa sa rapist ay ipare-rape sya sa bading o kung ano mang hayop until he die, Hehehe



Pwede rin parang racist lang ito sa mga cases. haha. dapat may kasamang palo o paglatigo habang pinaparusahan.

Para fair naman sa ibang bansa na may death penalty.
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: kris on July 21, 2019, 08:19:44 PM
Dito lumalabas pagkasadista ko eh.. Ang trip kong klase ng death penalty eh yung parang sa unit 731 o kaya auschwitz.. Lahat ng kasong kriminal matic ng ipapasok sa mala-auschwitz na facility.. Walang parole parole.. Pati mga corrupt!! Astig yun kasi mapapakinabangan pa sila ng mga med students..
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: miggymontenegro on October 12, 2019, 06:14:04 PM
Yes to death penalty
Including teens from ages 13 up
Title: Re: Debate Topic No. 2: Dapat bang ibalik ang Death Penalty sa Pilipinas?
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on July 08, 2022, 12:31:04 PM
Naman