In the history of abortion, induced abortion has been the source of considerable debate, controversy, and activism. An individual's position on the complex ethical, moral, philosophical, biological, and legal issues is often related to his or her value system. The main positions are one that argues in favor of access to abortion and one argues against access to abortion. Opinions of abortion may be described as being a combination of beliefs on its morality, and beliefs on the responsibility, ethical scope, and proper extent of governmental authorities in public policy. Religious ethics also has an influence upon both personal opinion and the greater debate over abortion.
Abortion debates, especially pertaining to abortion laws, are often spearheaded by groups advocating one of these two positions. In the United States, those in favor of greater legal restrictions on, or even complete prohibition of abortion, most often describe themselves as pro-life while those against legal restrictions on abortion describe themselves as pro-choice. Generally, the former position argues that a human fetus is a human being with a right to live making abortion tantamount to murder. The latter position argues that a woman has certain reproductive rights, especially the choice whether or not to carry a pregnancy to term.
In both public and private debate, arguments presented in favor of or against abortion access focus on either the moral permissibility of an induced abortion, or justification of laws permitting or restricting abortion.
Debate also focuses on whether the pregnant woman should have to notify and/or have the consent of others in distinct cases: a minor, her parents; a legally married or common-law wife, her husband; or a pregnant woman, the biological father. In a 2003 Gallup poll in the United States, 79% of male and 67% of female respondents were in favor of legalized mandatory spousal notification; overall support was 72% with 26% opposed.
legalize or not?.. Kung may gusto ka pang specific conditions, type it in!
We might want to know the view of PGGers regarding this issue..
Big NOOOO!!!!!!!
BUHAY NA YAN KAHIT SAANG ANGGULO TINGNAN
Abortion is defined as delivery of a fetus less than 20 weeks age of gestation or when the fetus weighs 500 grams or less. There are two types of induced abortion: (1) Elective Abortion and (2) Therapeutic Abortion. Therapeutic abortion is done mainly when the mother's health is at stake. However, elective abortion is done at the request or will of the mother. What we are supposed to be clearly against at is ELECTIVE ABORTION. This type of abortion, where in the mother purposely aborts her baby, is unacceptable. However, with regards to therapeutic abortion, I am for it. Most of the time, when the mother's health is at stake, the same goes to the baby. The scenario is like this: don't abort the baby, then both mother and baby die. But abort the baby, mother lives, the baby dies. Which do you prefer?
I'm against Abortion
Iìm pro-life so NO.
why abort? dapat nga magpasalamat ka at di ka baog. ;D
this happens to teenagers who don't want to open to their parents/relatives
Quote from: pinoybrusko on July 17, 2010, 12:09:53 PM
this happens to teenagers who don't want to open to their parents/relatives
yeah, more like afraid to take up responsibilities and consequences of their actions.
^ at nadala lang ng kapusukan ng pagiging kabataan.
kaya dapat sex education should start in high school and tackles abortion, contraceptives and other issues. Let the students be educated first and foremost and OSY too
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paano b ang procedure ng abortion? im just curious..
alam nyo study shows daw na mas nagkaka trauma ang mga lalaki(father) kesa sa mga babae(mother) pag nagpalaglag yung babae.
pano ba kase gngwa yang abortion. eh hinde nmn magkakasya sa pekpek ung bata kung hinde iii-re at hinde pa kabwanan eh... hinde xa magsusuper stretch.
Quote from: Kilo 1000 on May 27, 2011, 06:55:45 PM
Quote from: otipeps on May 27, 2011, 11:30:59 AM
alam nyo study shows daw na mas nagkaka trauma ang mga lalaki(father) kesa sa mga babae(mother) pag nagpalaglag yung babae.
Talaga? Pakipost naman ng mga detalye ng study na yan. Mas maganda siguro kung matignan kung papaano nila ginawa yung study na yan.
actually nabasa ko yun way back pa when I was still in college, marami ka parin naman makikitang article dito sa internet about that. Based daw sa study mas matagal daw maka recover ang mga lalaki psychologically , meron daw yung di mo sila makausap lagi sila umiiyak. Nakalimutan ko lang kung anong university sa US yung gumawa ng study.
Quote from: marvinofthefaintsmile on May 28, 2011, 07:55:36 AM
pano ba kase gngwa yang abortion. eh hinde nmn magkakasya sa pekpek ung bata kung hinde iii-re at hinde pa kabwanan eh... hinde xa magsusuper stretch.
ano ka ba marvin, hinde na pwede i-abort pag buo na ang bata, usually ginagawa ito pag ilang months pa lang buntis ang babae :D
For the sake of argument,
Whether you accept it or not, the sad truth is that abortion happens despite the existence of law penalizing it - abortion for the health benefit of the mother included. Anyone can contact someone to carry on the dirty job as long as that person knows where to find one. Whether to protect the honor of the woman or to spare her life, she doesn't have any choice at all than to undergo through an underground and most likely unsafe abortion procedure. As a result, our women suffer more unnecessary injuries from these sneaky procedures. Now, instead of keeping abortion illegal, wouldn't it be better if we allow it instead in order to be able to give them assistance, supervise the procedures or even develop ones which would primarily safeguard the health of our pregnant women?
Naalala ko ung recollection namin. We got shown a couple
Of pictures of aborted babies. Then the priest said " pasalamat
Kayo di kayo ginanyan ng mga magulang niyo..."
The babies were heavily mutilated... It makes me thank my parents
For taking chances with me. :)
grabe kahit buo na ang baby, may gumagawa nito. Tsk tsk tsk >:(
diba nga sa India for the last 3 decades daw 12 million na female baby na yung pinalaglag, yung mga gumagawa daw nito yung may mga may kaya sa India. Tapos sa china yung mga forced abortion lalo na pag babae yung pinagbubuntis mo, kaya nga ngayon merong mga age bracket na bihira lang ang mga babae na pinanganak sa taong yun halos puro mga kalalakihan kaya nakakalungkot talaga.
Agree with S3.
Still, legalizing abortion does not bode well on the ethical values of that society, not to mention religion. As I recall Cardinal Sin once quoted that resolving these issues will determine his salvation here on earth.
I'd like to happen for these "underground" procedures to have some sort of unofficial authority. Or a backhanded leash for safety, and viability.
no to abortion. PERIOD.
Agree with kilo. There are different types of abortion sa mundo ng medicine. Yung abortion that most of the people are familiar with, at kung saan sila against, is the elective abortion.
Yung term na "nalaglag" or miscarriage, abortion din ang tawag dun. These are the spontaneous abortion, incomplete abortion, complete abortion, missed abortion. Itong mga to, hindi ito induced by the woman.
Yung elective abortion, ito yung ginagawa ng babae para ipalaglag yung bata kasi ayaw niya sa bata. Dito ako against.
I-post ko ulit dito yung case na pinost ko sa RH Bill topic.
Your wife is pregnant, diagnosed to have ectopic pregnancy (meaning, instead of the normal implantation at the uterus, the implantation of the embryo is at the fallopian tube or other parts of the reproductive organs). Medically, ectopic pregnancy is not 100% viable, and aside from that it poses high maternal risk (such as internal hemorrhage). So these will be the choices:
A. Abort the fetus and let the mother live
B. Do not abort the fetus and let both fetus and mother die
What do you want to do?
^^mom got a miscarriage kase nabuntis xa ng 40s na.. So I saw my unborn brother. He's just around 3 inches I think.. Me mga dalire pa nga eh.. Father named him 'Claws'.
Abortion saved my life
"I almost died in an emergency room because the doctor on call refused to perform a necessary procedure"
http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2011/05/26/abortion_saved_my_life
Quote from: Kilo 1000 on May 30, 2011, 02:40:42 AM
Quote from: S3 on May 28, 2011, 07:10:24 PM
For the sake of argument,
Whether you accept it or not, the sad truth is that abortion happens despite the existence of law penalizing it - abortion for the health benefit of the mother included. Anyone can contact someone to carry on the dirty job as long as that person knows where to find one.
What kind of abortion?
A. Spontaneous abortion
B. Induced Abortion
Or you think both of them are the same?
I'm only speaking of induced abortion. In the eyes of the law, there is only abortion
per se - without any further qualification. This means to say that even those done in order to save the woman's life would be a criminal act.
Quote from: Kilo 1000 on May 30, 2011, 02:40:42 AM
Quote from: S3 on May 28, 2011, 07:10:24 PM
Whether to protect the honor of the woman or to spare her life, she doesn't have any choice at all than to undergo through an underground and most likely unsafe abortion procedure. As a result, our women suffer more unnecessary injuries from these sneaky procedures. Now, instead of keeping abortion illegal, wouldn't it be better if we allow it instead in order to be able to give them assistance, supervise the procedures or even develop ones which would primarily safeguard the health of our pregnant women?
What do you mean by unnecessary injuries and sneaky procedures and what kinds of procedures?
Are you sure that these underground procedures are technically different from the standard gynecological procedure or medical treatments?
I don't have the technical knowledge of the medical procedures so I'll leave that to the experts. Neither do I have sufficient data,
but that is exactly the point. Due to its illegal status, it is rather performed in the dark without proper documentation and without any assurance that a certain level of standards would be followed. Also, in case of an injury, the mother would not have the right to complain against the person who facilitated the abortion and seek redress from the government because they are in pari delicto. Since they are both at fault, the law will leave them where the law finds them.
basta galing sa tao ang choice its a big no
^ care to explain when is a choice "galing sa tao", and it is not, and if not, galing saan?
Quote from: carpediem on May 30, 2011, 10:32:29 PM
^ care to explain when is a choice "galing sa tao", and it is not, and if not, galing saan?
yung iba kasi pag nakunan daw abortion na rin...kahit di sinasadya... baka kasi maging guilty yung ibang may miscariiage... pero pag wala ka na mang desisyon na ginawa tapos nawala lang yung baby ...nothing to be guilty about
Napaisip lang ako I have a friend and may dalawa siyang barkadang mag shota pero nabuntis yung babae pero di pa sila ready that time at di sila sure kung sila na nga ba talaga so ginawa nila pina abort nila yung baby. Ngayon after ilang years sila din nagkatuluyan at may isa na silang anak. I wonder ano kaya naiisip nila ngayon
Quote from: Peps on August 20, 2017, 06:27:14 PM
Napaisip lang ako I have a friend and may dalawa siyang barkadang mag shota pero nabuntis yung babae pero di pa sila ready that time at di sila sure kung sila na nga ba talaga so ginawa nila pina abort nila yung baby. Ngayon after ilang years sila din nagkatuluyan at may isa na silang anak. I wonder ano kaya naiisip nila ngayon
that's really sad. depende yan sa beliefs nila, ilang weeks nung pina-abort nila?
Quote from: Chris on August 28, 2017, 05:08:06 PM
Quote from: Peps on August 20, 2017, 06:27:14 PM
Napaisip lang ako I have a friend and may dalawa siyang barkadang mag shota pero nabuntis yung babae pero di pa sila ready that time at di sila sure kung sila na nga ba talaga so ginawa nila pina abort nila yung baby. Ngayon after ilang years sila din nagkatuluyan at may isa na silang anak. I wonder ano kaya naiisip nila ngayon
that's really sad. depende yan sa beliefs nila, ilang weeks nung pina-abort nila?
3 months yata, pero di naman sa beliefs nila pareho naman silang catholic di lang talaga sila ready that time, pero siyempre pano pag nalaman nung anak nila yung ginawa nila before
Quote from: Peps on August 29, 2017, 08:49:35 PM
Quote from: Chris on August 28, 2017, 05:08:06 PM
Quote from: Peps on August 20, 2017, 06:27:14 PM
Napaisip lang ako I have a friend and may dalawa siyang barkadang mag shota pero nabuntis yung babae pero di pa sila ready that time at di sila sure kung sila na nga ba talaga so ginawa nila pina abort nila yung baby. Ngayon after ilang years sila din nagkatuluyan at may isa na silang anak. I wonder ano kaya naiisip nila ngayon
that's really sad. depende yan sa beliefs nila, ilang weeks nung pina-abort nila?
3 months yata, pero di naman sa beliefs nila pareho naman silang catholic di lang talaga sila ready that time, pero siyempre pano pag nalaman nung anak nila yung ginawa nila before
This is sooo sad. There are a lot of couples who wanted to have a child and are actually looking for one to adopt. My ex-boss had to spend 2 years to find one and had to wrestle with the bureaucracy and shit just to have one.