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Title: Left Behind
Post by: carpediem on August 01, 2010, 12:13:33 AM
Why is the Philippines left behind by our Asian neighbors? The Philippines was the richest Asian nation 50 years ago right?
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: pinoybrusko on August 01, 2010, 01:45:50 PM
Because of massive corruption by the govt. officials. Our country's decline started with Marcos regime.
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: Mr.Yos0 on August 01, 2010, 02:33:45 PM
Mismanagement of our resources. Oy ^ the country's highs and lows happened during the Marcos regime.
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: angelo on August 02, 2010, 04:52:43 AM
yep. it became the system kaya laganap ang red tape, abuse of power/authority, graft, etc.... but yes, it was mismanaged.
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: Mr.Yos0 on August 02, 2010, 11:18:42 AM
Take note: MASSIVE resources.
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: pinoybrusko on August 03, 2010, 06:24:17 PM
Quote from: Mr.Yos0 on August 01, 2010, 02:33:45 PM
Mismanagement of our resources. Oy ^ the country's highs and lows happened during the Marcos regime.

yes high kasi sa time na iyon 2nd tayo to Japan in Asia pero nagdecline na afterwards dahil nga sa massive corruption. Hinde na nakabawi after that kasi ang mga sumunod na Presidente after Cory practice massive corruption too  ;D Kaya ngayon nabaon na talaga tayo sa utang. Next to Marcos, GMA was the next of the most corrupt 
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: joshgroban on August 03, 2010, 10:28:44 PM
maraming factor why we were left nehind ... i dont want to sound so religious but i think part of it is we just become hypocrite with our relationship to God... ne fear anymore... we say things and do otherwise...corruption are just a product of it
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: carpediem on August 04, 2010, 04:23:57 PM
Agree with people being hypocrite.

Besides restoring our democracy, what were the achievements of the Aquino administration?
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: Mr.Yos0 on August 04, 2010, 08:36:59 PM
^ partial CARP?
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: carpediem on August 06, 2010, 01:42:08 AM
Is it the fault of the goverment or the fault of the people?
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: judE_Law on August 07, 2010, 10:57:43 AM
^^ its the fault of the politicians who have self interest!!!


we can't blame the people especially yung mga 'mahihirap', kasi nalilinlang sila ng mga 'buwakanang' pulitiko....
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: pinoybrusko on August 07, 2010, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: carpediem on August 06, 2010, 01:42:08 AM
Is it the fault of the goverment or the fault of the people?

it is the fault of the politicians who have self interest from Marcos to GMA.
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: angelo on August 07, 2010, 11:19:20 PM
Quote from: pinoybrusko on August 07, 2010, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: carpediem on August 06, 2010, 01:42:08 AM
Is it the fault of the goverment or the fault of the people?

it is the fault of the politicians who have self interest from Marcos to GMA.

well that is human nature. but what can guard against it is that it always takes two to tango. even the other person succumbs to the temptation.....
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: pinoybrusko on August 08, 2010, 09:29:20 PM
I wish makahabol ulit ang pinas kasi ngayon second to the last na ata tayo. Last ang bangladesh. Wag naman sana na pati sila maunahan pa tayo  >:(
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: joshgroban on August 17, 2010, 01:17:21 PM
yap wish and pray for the best
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: bukojob on August 21, 2010, 11:14:27 AM
I don't know if this reply would be relevant... but I think it's how we think...

most of us can't get over of the great things that we did in the past. (people power, bayanihan in the ondoy incident, etc.)

most of us just reminisce about it and not think on how to apply these in today's problems. (the answer is pretty obvious of course)

I think we should focus more on the future than on the past...

but as I said... my idea may be irrelevant to the thread...  ;D
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: pinoybrusko on August 21, 2010, 08:13:09 PM
ok nga sagot mo. kaya nagiging left behind ang pinas dahil sa way of thinking at mentality ng mga pinoys  ;D
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: angelo on August 26, 2010, 07:26:37 PM
i dont know how relevant, but some people would argue it was because of our long-time being "slaves" to other countries. it affected our culture and mentality so much.

BUT we can change and always HOPE for the better.
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: judE_Law on August 26, 2010, 08:49:20 PM
sa napanood niyo nung lunes... sinong hindi maniniwala na tayo ay hindi napag-iiwanan?
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: carpediem on August 27, 2010, 01:55:25 AM
Haay.

WTF is wrong with the country? From the president, government officials, to the PNP, media, and the common people - what is wrong with you?

Sorry Jude, with all due respect to you, I know you are from the media. ABS-CBN also admit they need to evaluate how they show live coverages, and GMA also say they'll evaluate on their reporting of the incident.
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: judE_Law on August 27, 2010, 08:23:22 PM
Quote from: carpediem on August 27, 2010, 01:55:25 AM
Haay.

WTF is wrong with the country? From the president, government officials, to the PNP, media, and the common people - what is wrong with you?

Sorry Jude, with all due respect to you, I know you are from the media. ABS-CBN also admit they need to evaluate how they show live coverages, and GMA also say they'll evaluate on their reporting of the incident.

no prob carpediem.. ako, i honestly think na dapat talaga may part nung hostage crisis na nagkaroon na ng news black-out.. one reason na i commend PGMA nung sa manila peninsula siege.. succesful yun kasi nagkaroon ng news black-out... although nasa pananaw pa rin yun ng mga tao kung dapat nga ba na hindi nila malaman yun..
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: angelo on August 27, 2010, 08:41:15 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-wagner/the-philippine-bus-and-mi_b_694544.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-wagner/the-philippine-bus-and-mi_b_694544.html)

maybe daniel wagner is right. bakit iba na appreciate ang ganda ng Pinas? sariling Pinoy, hindi?
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: pinoybrusko on August 28, 2010, 12:00:05 PM
ofws sa hongkong nararanasan ang effect thru harsh treatment at pagpapahirap ng mga employers nila. It's saddening nadadamay pati nagwowork sa labas ng pinas  :(
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: angelo on August 29, 2010, 09:00:16 AM
very understsndable - kahit sino talagang ilalabas ang galit
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: judE_Law on August 29, 2010, 10:34:02 PM
buti na alng si jackie chan malawak ang pang-unawa... super idol ko na ngayon siya.
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: pinoybrusko on August 30, 2010, 09:41:39 PM
Quote from: judE_Law on August 29, 2010, 10:34:02 PM
buti na alng si jackie chan malawak ang pang-unawa... super idol ko na ngayon siya.


bakit ano sabi niya?  ;D
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: joshgroban on August 31, 2010, 12:11:14 AM
ciguro yun ang tamang dapat sabihin although may lapses din talaga tayo
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: ram013 on August 31, 2010, 12:32:58 AM
OT: medyo nkakatakot me pumunta ng HongKong...bukod sa recent event ang surname ko pa Mendoza... so malamang pag pumunta me dun..pabalikin na agad me hehehee  ;D
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: joshgroban on August 31, 2010, 12:34:12 AM
haha korek
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: pinoybrusko on August 31, 2010, 12:02:16 PM
Quote from: ram013 on August 31, 2010, 12:32:58 AM
OT: medyo nkakatakot me pumunta ng HongKong...bukod sa recent event ang surname ko pa Mendoza... so malamang pag pumunta me dun..pabalikin na agad me hehehee  ;D


uu nga no baka nga may mendoza din na nagwork sa hongkong as ofw baka pinagppiyestahan din ng mga intsik  :D
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: judE_Law on September 05, 2010, 03:55:29 PM
Quote from: pinoybrusko on August 31, 2010, 12:02:16 PM
Quote from: ram013 on August 31, 2010, 12:32:58 AM
OT: medyo nkakatakot me pumunta ng HongKong...bukod sa recent event ang surname ko pa Mendoza... so malamang pag pumunta me dun..pabalikin na agad me hehehee  ;D


uu nga no baka nga may mendoza din na nagwork sa hongkong as ofw baka pinagppiyestahan din ng mga intsik  :D

hindi naman galit satin mga intsik eh.. galit sila sa naging pagresponde ng gobyerno natin sa hostage crisis.. watch this video:

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/video/video.php?v=467424346214&ref=mf
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: bukojob on September 07, 2010, 02:43:04 PM
grabe, na side track ata tong thread na to ng konti XD

another thing that I noticed is that we are very religious. So religious that some or most are just letting God do all the work. We always say "nasa Diyos ang awa at nasa tao ang gawa", but ultimately, may ginagawa ba talaga tayo aside from crying over spilled milk?

just my opinion...

Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: pinoybrusko on September 14, 2010, 09:49:03 PM
another reason kung bakit left behind tayo from other countries is wala tayong UNITY. Kanya kanya tayo eh  ;D
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: maykel on December 23, 2010, 04:16:27 PM
For me the reason kung bakit naleft behind ang bansa natin ay dahil sa attitude natin na sinisisi sa iba kung bakit ganyan ang kalagayan ng buhay natin.

hindi naman ang mga politician ang nagpapatakbo ng buhay natin. Part lang sila.Even businessmen only have part. Our life greatly depends on our decisions at ang desisyon na yun ay may epekto sa ikauunlad ng buhay natin or ikababagsak natin. :)

Naalala ko tuloy yung Tag line sa church na kinabibilangan ko before: "If I changed everything changes."
If I want our country to progress, I must progress first. :)
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: Hitad on December 23, 2010, 06:45:04 PM
^
Agree!  :)

--
For me naman I think kokonti yung talagang nagmamahal sa bansa natin. Wala din kwenta na sinasabi nila na "proud to be Filipino" kung sila rin naman eh di marunong sumunod sa batas. Kahit simpleng pagtapon lang ng basura di magawa.
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: pinoybrusko on February 21, 2011, 05:00:32 PM
wala na ngang unity, inggitero pa ang mga Pinoys kaya left behind tayo. Aside from discipline baguhin na masamang ugali ng pinoys na namana natin sa mga Spaniards

instead of being happy to other Pinoys who manage to be on top, they try to put them down by making up stories and bad lies  >:(

Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: judE_Law on February 21, 2011, 09:04:31 PM
Quote from: pinoybrusko on September 14, 2010, 09:49:03 PM
another reason kung bakit left behind tayo from other countries is wala tayong UNITY. Kanya kanya tayo eh  ;D

tumpak!!

marami kasi na sarili lang ang iniisip..
marami na gusto na sila lang ang umaasenso ang buhay...
marami ang gusto na sila lang ang magaling, kaya hinahatak pababa ang kapwa.
hangga't hindi nagkakaisa ang mga Pinoy di tayo aasenso.. ang tanong may tsansa nga bang magkaisa?
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: pinoybrusko on February 22, 2011, 02:39:58 PM
yun ang masakit parang wala ng tsansa kasi makasarili in nature ang mga Pinoys
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: Hitad on March 01, 2011, 10:18:51 AM
We have lots of bad elements in our culture. I also think that we do not deserve this "freedom" for now as we are still a developing country, lots of people still need to be lectured. Also, we are not that "rich" 50 years ago, we were once one of the richest in the poor Asia.

People just keep on blaming the government, but look at our surroundings. Lots of clutter.
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: Hitad on March 01, 2011, 10:31:44 AM
That's a different thing.
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: pinoybrusko on March 01, 2011, 05:08:02 PM
unahin ng lecturan ang mga pulitiko at opisyales sa military. They are college graduates and known for their being best in class. Angelo Reyes is one of them. But what happens, nainfluence sa corruption. He did not invent it or started it but he just go and ride with the flow  ;D


wag naman maging communist tayo hehehe
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: angelo on March 02, 2011, 12:13:36 AM
kaya nga eh, sistema na lang talaga. mismong sa COA may problema rin.
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: carpediem on March 23, 2011, 03:02:54 PM
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Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: pinoybrusko on March 26, 2011, 02:49:17 PM
linisin ang lahat ng sangay ng gobyerno from the lowest to the highest, pero paano at sino ang may kakayanan gumawa nito?  ;D
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: angelo on March 27, 2011, 09:31:56 AM
shittiest as in has the most number of shit? hahaha!
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: joshgroban on March 27, 2011, 02:49:58 PM
i think the poverty mentality has a big factor why were left behind
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: vortex on March 27, 2011, 05:24:09 PM
Quote from: ram013 on August 31, 2010, 12:32:58 AM
OT: medyo nkakatakot me pumunta ng HongKong...bukod sa recent event ang surname ko pa Mendoza... so malamang pag pumunta me dun..pabalikin na agad me hehehee  ;D
Mendoza ka rin pala?!hahaha...Mendoza rin ako...hahaha
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: joshgroban on March 27, 2011, 05:28:10 PM
baka magkamag anak kayo chek nyo
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: vortex on March 27, 2011, 05:29:47 PM
Quote from: pinoybrusko on September 14, 2010, 09:49:03 PM
another reason kung bakit left behind tayo from other countries is wala tayong UNITY. Kanya kanya tayo eh  ;D
Agree ako dito, and the reasons kung bakit wala tayong unity is because of Dishonesty and untruthfullness na nakikita ng karamihan sa iilan na kung saan parang virus na nagpapasa-pasa na.But I still believe na may pag-asa pa tayong mag-No.1 hindi lang sa Asia sa Buong Mundo. Marami pa namang mga Pilipino dyan na maipagmamalaki mo ang ugali at pagka-tao.
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: judE_Law on March 27, 2011, 06:38:51 PM
Through the Eyes of a Filipino

By Hazelyne M. Elgar



Listen to me!

You might think we are a poor nation,

but when I look around me I do not see just poverty.

Instead, I see farmers, back bent from sun up till sun down

nurturing the land.

I hear fisherfolks heaving, as they gamble with their lives

amidst angry winds and rough water just to nourish their families.

I feel the weary legs of children from far-flung barrios,

as they cross rivers and mountains and walk for miles,

just to get to school because they still dream.

I see determination in the eyes of street children playing tag

with cars flying past on a ruthless highway

in order to augment their parent's meager earnings.

In the face of destitution the Filipinos are steadfast. That is courage.

You rebuke us for the graft and corruption plaguing our government,

but when my eyes skim the front pages of broadsheets I do not see hopelessness.

Instead, I am inspired by stories about pushcart classes

and strangers swimming in deep murky flood waters to save nameless individuals.

I immerse myself in news about how my countrymen unceasingly believe in the spirit of unity.

I revel because millions of Filipinos still voted for change.

At times when we are at the receiving end of the world's censure,

I choose to see the noble intentions of fallible men to help.

In tumultuous situations, when the urge to hold others culpable is difficult to resist


In the face of adversity, the Filipinos are united. That is courage.

You chastise millions of my countrymen for leaving our motherland to seek greener pastures.

Answer me this: have you ever listened to how they whimper at night because they long for home?

When Filipinas, forced to work away from their dear ones,

shed silent tears as they lull to sleep infants not their own

I begin to understand what unconditional love is.

You lure away our engineers, artists and teachers with a promise of a good life.

The loving hands of our nurses tend the health of your people.

Do no dare ask why we need to fill the void in your labor force!

The Overseas Filipino Worker is intelligent, ingenious, hard working and resilient.

I see that, and in my eyes they are heroes.

In the face of obligation, the Filipinos are self-sacrificing. That is courage.

You are at liberty to express your opinion about my country,

but you can never take away my pride, for I belong to a people united in faith and love.

I am Filipino, and no matter where I go I will always be one.

I do not doubt that the time for change will one day come for the Philippines.

Our flag, cast in the sun's glorious light, will be waving high.

My countrymen's sacrifices will not be in vain. We will face the future with courage.

As one, we will reach out to the world and the world will embrace us.

Believe me, because I will take the lead.
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: vortex on March 27, 2011, 08:47:32 PM
@Jude_Law:Nice one...(applauding).  :D
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: judE_Law on March 28, 2011, 12:21:26 AM
^think positive!!!!
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: joshgroban on March 28, 2011, 08:37:52 AM
i think we just have to work and pray hard
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: Ryker on March 26, 2017, 02:00:18 AM
May pag-asa pa!

Kung ang bawat Pilipino ay makikipagtulungan sa "common good" ng ating bansa.
Title: Re: Left Behind
Post by: jackxtwist on September 17, 2017, 03:00:27 PM
Quote from: vortex on March 27, 2011, 05:29:47 PM
Quote from: pinoybrusko on September 14, 2010, 09:49:03 PM
another reason kung bakit left behind tayo from other countries is wala tayong UNITY. Kanya kanya tayo eh  ;D
Agree ako dito, and the reasons kung bakit wala tayong unity is because of Dishonesty and untruthfullness na nakikita ng karamihan sa iilan na kung saan parang virus na nagpapasa-pasa na.But I still believe na may pag-asa pa tayong mag-No.1 hindi lang sa Asia sa Buong Mundo. Marami pa namang mga Pilipino dyan na maipagmamalaki mo ang ugali at pagka-tao.

yung lack of unity and dishonesty ay mas malalim pa na pinanggagalingan. Look at our geography: 7,107 islands so naturally our cultures, values, and belief system are different. At dahil sa geography na iyan kaya may kanya kanyang panginoon ang bawat lugar. So never tayo magiging isa.