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So, sa tingin niyo ba ay maganda ang performance ni PNOY? o nalilihis na siya sa Matuwid na Daan? O maaga pa para sabihin kung Pasado o lagpak siya?

di sya ganun kagaling pero honest sya for that reason ok sya

Quote from: otipeps on June 11, 2011, 11:25:37 AM
di sya ganun kagaling pero honest sya for that reason ok sya

hindi bawal bumoto.. ;D

Fair lang, hindi siya ok para sa akin sa pamamalakad kasi wala ako nakikitang improvements(that could satisfy me), though I know naman na mahirap pamunuan ang isang bansa na nalugmok na sa kahirapan at katiwalian ng ilang mga pinuno. Pero honest to goodness naman siya I guess. Ayoko rin ng paulit-ulit na pasaring at pagpuna sa mga issue ng nakaraaang administration. I know hindi dapat isangtabi iyon pero para sa akin nagiging tactic na nila para ma-divert yung mga issue na naibabato ngayon sa current administration eh.

Quote from: vortex on June 11, 2011, 12:42:19 PM
Fair lang, hindi siya ok para sa akin sa pamamalakad kasi wala ako nakikitang improvements(that could satisfy me), though I know naman na mahirap pamunuan ang isang bansa na nalugmok na sa kahirapan at katiwalian ng ilang mga pinuno. Pero honest to goodness naman siya I guess. Ayoko rin ng paulit-ulit na pasaring at pagpuna sa mga issue ng nakaraaang administration. I know hindi dapat isangtabi iyon pero para sa akin nagiging tactic na nila para ma-divert yung mga issue na naibabato ngayon sa current administration eh.

i agree vortex..

Quote from: vortex on June 11, 2011, 12:42:19 PM
Fair lang, hindi siya ok para sa akin sa pamamalakad kasi wala ako nakikitang improvements(that could satisfy me), though I know naman na mahirap pamunuan ang isang bansa na nalugmok na sa kahirapan at katiwalian ng ilang mga pinuno. Pero honest to goodness naman siya I guess. Ayoko rin ng paulit-ulit na pasaring at pagpuna sa mga issue ng nakaraaang administration. I know hindi dapat isangtabi iyon pero para sa akin nagiging tactic na nila para ma-divert yung mga issue na naibabato ngayon sa current administration eh.

Sang-ayon ako dito sa sinabi mo. At sana rin maglagay naman siya ng "competent" na mga miyembro ng gabinete.

Quote from: princewilliam on June 12, 2011, 01:24:41 AM

Quote from: vortex on June 11, 2011, 12:42:19 PM
Fair lang, hindi siya ok para sa akin sa pamamalakad kasi wala ako nakikitang improvements(that could satisfy me), though I know naman na mahirap pamunuan ang isang bansa na nalugmok na sa kahirapan at katiwalian ng ilang mga pinuno. Pero honest to goodness naman siya I guess. Ayoko rin ng paulit-ulit na pasaring at pagpuna sa mga issue ng nakaraaang administration. I know hindi dapat isangtabi iyon pero para sa akin nagiging tactic na nila para ma-divert yung mga issue na naibabato ngayon sa current administration eh.

Sang-ayon ako dito sa sinabi mo. At sana rin maglagay naman siya ng "competent" na mga miyembro ng gabinete.

si Mar Roxas, ano tingin mo? karapat-dapat ba siya sa [pwestong inilagay ni PNOY?

Lagpak yun boto ko

Hindi ko siya binoto.

ok lang... bigyan pa ng chens....
pero mukhang malabo nang matupad yung mga pangako niya.

Quote from: Hitad on June 12, 2011, 05:39:27 PM
Hindi ko siya binoto.

ok lang... bigyan pa ng chens....
pero mukhang malabo nang matupad yung mga pangako niya.

sino binoto mo?

Ok lng nman si PNOY? Dapat maglagay sya ng mga taong credible sa lhat ng ahensya. Si Delema  ganda ng performance nya... PNOY dpat kagaya nya mga tauhan m.. Sana di ako ng kamali syo!

Quote from: MaRfZ on June 12, 2011, 05:46:59 PM

Quote from: Hitad on June 12, 2011, 05:39:27 PM
Hindi ko siya binoto.

ok lang... bigyan pa ng chens....
pero mukhang malabo nang matupad yung mga pangako niya.

sino binoto mo?

Si Gordon.  ;D

ayun.. mahilig kumain ng hotdog ang presidente natin at gusto eh nakatelevise pa... tpos mahilig sa mga sobrang mahal na koche..

chickboy si pnoy

My vote is bigyan pa ng chance.
Overall, I am not satisfied with the way he govern the country but still we all deserve another chance kaya I vote for another chance. :)

Awful but genuine President Noynoy Aquino photo goes viral on the web


(https://www.pinoyguyguide.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fraissarobles.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FNoy-awful-photo-from-Newsbreak.jpg&hash=8642399a25d595c7f90cd17df5bd1e1205fbdb8c)

By Raissa Robles
A highly unflattering picture of PNoy, released by the presidential palace, has reaped over 200 mostly negative comments on the social networking site Facebook.
I was drawn to look closely at it, not only because of the awkward tilt of President Benigno Aquino's head, but also because of the posted comments, criticizing the large crystal ashtray and box of cigarettes on his nearly empty desk, and the shabby chic wallpaper on which the presidential seal was displayed.
The general observation made by the commentators were that the office lacked presidential dignity. The ash tray and cigarettes on PNoy's desk showed he was violating the new No Smoking Law. And his nearly empty desk was proof of a do-nothing presidency.

see the full article below:


http://raissarobles.com/2011/07/04/awful-but-genuine-president-noynoy-aquino-photo-goes-viral-on-the-web/

for me, hindi ko maramdaman ang presence ni PNOY.

mas madami pa siyang nasabi/pangako sa mga nagawa nya

Buti na lang di ko siya binoto. At least may piece of mind ako lol

He's not a role model.

PNOY, more talk, less work. Sad but true

WANG WANG!

hindi ko lang alam, pero parang wala akong tiwala sa mga lumalabas sa bibig nya, bakit kaya?

bigyan pa ng chance ang aking boto  8)

Wang wang.. Err!

Lagpak!

on a scale of 1-10 (10 highest), id give him a 5.

I heard his SONA, sana tuloy tuloy na ang pagbabago ng pinas

Quote from: angelo on July 27, 2011, 01:03:35 AM
on a scale of 1-10 (10 highest), id give him a 5.

5 or less.

bumaba na rin trust ratings niya

at least lumalabas na sa news ang mga taong nangungurakot sa kaban ng bayan, starting with Pagcor. Ngayon naman ang helicopters issue  >:(

Grabe ang kapal ng mukha ng pamilya ng mga Arroyo, ganid na ganid sa pangungurakot hinde naman kanila ang pera kundi sa taong bayan.

I want there family to put in jail without bail, or much better lethal injection para hinde na makahawa pa

ok lang naman kulay dilaw pa rin at walang tigil sa yosi

State of the Wang-wang...

I would rather agree to be a state of Wang wang, wag lang maging state of corruption  :D

State of the Wang-Bu! ;D

Quote from: judE_Law on August 14, 2011, 09:32:58 PM
State of the Wang-Bu! ;D

state of wang bu yung mga mamamayan would agree to have corruption in the country. Mas maigi pang mukhang abnormal o buwang ang presidente wag lang ang mga ginagawa sa taong bayan

Enough said. I think its clear already. I just hope Arroyos would be nailed to death because of their crimes. Mas matindi pa iyon kesa sa ginawa ng Ampatuans in my opinion.

"However, even President (Benigno) Aquino had personally admitted they have no solid evidence to pin down the Arroyos." ALL THESE ARE BUT FISHING EXPEDITIONS!

"They had already convicted the Arroyos before the eyes of the public. So even if the Supreme Court would order them to stop thei investigation in aid of prosecution, the damage would already be there," said Atty Raul Lambino Full Raul Raul L Lambino.

"And yet they claim this is not persecution. If this is not persecution and all they want is that justice is served as they claim it that way, then again, I ask them to file their cases in court. We will face them off," said the lawyer.

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‎"Ang isang presidente, pagmakialam sa isang proseso sa hukuman, hindi na hustisya yon; benggansa yon. At oras na'ng isang presidente makialam sa prosecution, 'no, wala nang magagawa yang presidente na 'yan kasi 50% of the time nakatingin sa likod nya na 'wag din gawin sa kanya. Kaya dapat isantabi na natin yan, gamutin na natin ang mga sugat natin at pagkaisahin natin ang ating bansa. Masyado na'ng benggansa sa pulitika, yung bawian, eh. 'Tigil na natin yan. Wala na tayong panahon para dyan." -- Gilbert Teodoro, Sept. 16, 2009, Umagang Kay Ganda

as a normal citizen, I also want the culprits to be jailed kahit mayaman or naging presidente pa siya ng bansa. Ngayong wala na siya sa power, this is the right time to nail them isa isa. It takes a long time to do this, hinde mabilis ang proseso. May mga evidences, isa isa na nagsasalita ang mga maliliit na taong involved.

sabi nga ni Trillanes, palitan na si de Lima kasi siya lang ang weakest link sa administrasyon ni Pnoy para ituloy ang kaso ng mga Arroyos. siya ang nagiging tinik ng administrasyon.

Totoo ang presidente pag nakialam sa isang proseso sa hukuman hinde na hustisya iyon ganun ang ginawa ni GMA nung nakaupo pa siya bilang presidente. Hawak niya sa leeg ang buong hukuman  :D ;D

Quote from: pinoybrusko on August 15, 2011, 12:06:18 PM
as a normal citizen, I also want the culprits to be jailed kahit mayaman or naging presidente pa siya ng bansa. Ngayong wala na siya sa power, this is the right time to nail them isa isa. It takes a long time to do this, hinde mabilis ang proseso. May mga evidences, isa isa na nagsasalita ang mga maliliit na taong involved.

sabi nga ni Trillanes, palitan na si de Lima kasi siya lang ang weakest link sa administrasyon ni Pnoy para ituloy ang kaso ng mga Arroyos. siya ang nagiging tinik ng administrasyon.

Totoo ang presidente pag nakialam sa isang proseso sa hukuman hinde na hustisya iyon ganun ang ginawa ni GMA nung nakaupo pa siya bilang presidente. Hawak niya sa leeg ang buong hukuman  :D ;D

sensiya na ibabalik ko lang sayo ang tawa... ;D ;D
at ano ang tawag mo sa pagkakatalaga ni PNOY kay Supreme Court Associate Justice Conchita Carpio-Morales bilang bagong Ombudsman?


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It's official: Morales new Ombudsman

President Aquino on Monday named retired Supreme Court Associate Justice Conchita Carpio-Morales as the new Ombudsman, boosting his administration's drive to file cases against "the corrupt and their accomplices."
Morales' possible appointment as Ombudsman was earlier opposed by former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, a subject of several corruption cases being built up by prosecutors.
Mr. Aquino announced Morales' appointment during his second State of the Nation Address (Sona) in the joint session of the Senate and the House of Representatives, drawing the most applause from the audience.
"When the new Ombudsman, former Supreme Court Justice Conchita Carpio-Morales, takes office, we will have an honest-to-goodness anticorruption office, not one that condones the corruption and abuses in government," the President said.
He was referring to former Ombudsman Merceditas Gutierrez, who resigned in April days before her impeachment trial at the Senate was to start.
Before Gutierrez resigned, President Aquino assailed her inability to file cases against officials of the past administration.
With Morales at the helm of the Office of the Ombudsman, Mr. Aquino said he expected "that this year, we will have filed our first major case against the corrupt and their accomplices."
"And these will be real cases, with strong evidence and clear testimonies, which will lead to the punishment of the guilty," he said.
No case if no evidence
Morales, 70, said she was "honored" by the appointment, but made it clear that she would not be pressured—even by Mr. Aquino—into filing cases against Arroyo unless evidence warranted it.
"I will not! I don't have that history of vindictiveness. I don't have that history of being a tool of anyone," she told reporters at the Batasan complex shortly after the President delivered his speech.
Asked how she would go about prosecuting Arroyo, she said: "I have always said we go by evidence. If there is probable cause, then we hale her to court. If there is none, we might as well dismiss the case."
Morales said she learned about her appointment only at around 3 p.m. or about an hour before the President delivered his Sona.
Before the formal announcement, she said she had been getting text messages speculating on her possible appointment. "But I was invited (to the Sona)," she said.
FVR, Erap
Former President Joseph Estrada and his predecessor, Fidel V. Ramos, welcomed Mr. Aquino's appointment of Morales as Ombudsman.
Ramos went out of his way to congratulate Morales. "It could not have gone to a better person with great wisdom and legal expertise. It's a very, very delicate job but ... we should always remember the right path," he told Morales, shaking her hand.
Morales is said to be a critic of former President Arroyo, but Justice Secretary Leila de Lima downplayed the possibility that it was a factor in her appointment.
Mr. Aquino earlier vowed to prosecute Arroyo and other officials allegedly involved in graft and corruption during her nine-year term.
"It's not the anti-Arroyo (image) per se. She has a high sense of independence. If you analyze her decisions, whether as ponente or dissenter, we can see through the high sense of independence that Justice Morales has," said De Lima, who admitted voting for Morales at the Judicial and Bar Council (JBC).
Age factor
Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago has expressed reservations about Morales' ability to handle cases at the Office of the Ombudsman because of her age.
"She's the best judge of herself," the senator said. "So many cases are filed at the Ombudsman and you have to have enough energy."
Told about Santiago's observation, Morales said: "She's entitled to her own opinion. I was wondering if they could measure my energy by my age. I told the JBC, which interviewed me, that if I was that old, the wellness results belied those charges against me."
Now that she had been formally appointed, Morales said she would "see to it that we will have a graft-free government." It was Morales who administered Mr. Aquino's oath of office on June 30 last year. Her appointment came more than a week before Aug. 4, the deadline for the position to be filled up. With a report from Cynthia D. Balana


http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/30007/it%E2%80%99s-official-morales-new-ombudsman

I don't see any wrong in appointing Morales if she deserves to have that job. It's clear what she said, she will only file any case if it is with evidence. Hinde siya hawak ninuman, we will have a honest to goodness anti-corruption office in the Ombudsman now.

Hinde tulad ng mga nakaupo dati, hawak sa leeg at paa  ;D isang utos lang ni GMA tikom na ang bibig nila kahit deep inside mali ang pinag-gagawa ni GMa. There are so many issues na puro corruption lang. Sa Magat Dam issue lang, grabeng pangloloko ang ginawa ng administrasyon sa taong bayan. Maraming iba pa, if you're not convinced sa mga ganitong klaseng issues ng panloloko sa pinas, natutulog ka pa din sa ngayon  :D you need to wake up na kasi you're just keep denying the facts around you dahil you worship her  :D ;D

Quote from: pinoybrusko on August 16, 2011, 11:52:24 AM
I don't see any wrong in appointing Morales if she deserves to have that job. It's clear what she said, she will only file any case if it is with evidence. Hinde siya hawak ninuman, we will have a honest to goodness anti-corruption office in the Ombudsman now.

Hinde tulad ng mga nakaupo dati, hawak sa leeg at paa  ;D isang utos lang ni GMA tikom na ang bibig nila kahit deep inside mali ang pinag-gagawa ni GMa. There are so many issues na puro corruption lang. Sa Magat Dam issue lang, grabeng pangloloko ang ginawa ng administrasyon sa taong bayan. Maraming iba pa, if you're not convinced sa mga ganitong klaseng issues ng panloloko sa pinas, natutulog ka pa din sa ngayon  :D you need to wake up na kasi you're just keep denying the facts around you dahil you worship her  :D ;D

what facts? or WTF?
they can't even file a single case because they don't have an evidence.. kaya sino priniprisinta nila? mga pinatalsik na opisyal nung time ni arroyo?? these people have their own interest... sino natutulog? o baka nanaginip pa ang supporters ni aquino na nasa Marcos era pa tayo... gising!

everybody has its own opinion, so I respect yours since you're not convinced. It will not be finished by throwing back and forth. let's just put it that way.

Ang pwede lang natin gawin maghintay ng progress ng gagawin ng current administration sa mga issues laban sa Arroyos and I love waiting for that to come  :D.

Also, just dig on the Magat dam issue para malaman mo na ginisa tayo sa sariling mantika ng panloloko ng GMA administration.

Quote from: pinoybrusko on August 16, 2011, 04:33:53 PM
everybody has its own opinion, so I respect yours since you're not convinced. It will not be finished by throwing back and forth. let's just put it that way.

Ang pwede lang natin gawin maghintay ng progress ng gagawin ng current administration sa mga issues laban sa Arroyos and I love waiting for that to come  :D.

Also, just dig on the Magat dam issue para malaman mo na ginisa tayo sa sariling mantika ng panloloko ng GMA administration.

Magat Dam issue... are you willing to testify?  ;D

ka-date ni Paris Hilton.

The Heiress meet the Hairless

Quote from: judE_Law on August 16, 2011, 08:15:03 PM

Quote from: pinoybrusko on August 16, 2011, 04:33:53 PM
everybody has its own opinion, so I respect yours since you're not convinced. It will not be finished by throwing back and forth. let's just put it that way.

Ang pwede lang natin gawin maghintay ng progress ng gagawin ng current administration sa mga issues laban sa Arroyos and I love waiting for that to come  :D.

Also, just dig on the Magat dam issue para malaman mo na ginisa tayo sa sariling mantika ng panloloko ng GMA administration.

Magat Dam issue... are you willing to testify?  ;D

no, just learn from that issue baka pwede niyo pa nga isama yan sa news niyo pandagdag sa Tv patrol  :D 

Quote from: pinoybrusko on August 17, 2011, 01:16:58 PM

Quote from: judE_Law on August 16, 2011, 08:15:03 PM

Quote from: pinoybrusko on August 16, 2011, 04:33:53 PM
everybody has its own opinion, so I respect yours since you're not convinced. It will not be finished by throwing back and forth. let's just put it that way.

Ang pwede lang natin gawin maghintay ng progress ng gagawin ng current administration sa mga issues laban sa Arroyos and I love waiting for that to come  :D.

Also, just dig on the Magat dam issue para malaman mo na ginisa tayo sa sariling mantika ng panloloko ng GMA administration.

Magat Dam issue... are you willing to testify?  ;D

no, just learn from that issue baka pwede niyo pa nga isama yan sa news niyo pandagdag sa Tv patrol  :D 

oh well, another hearsay? i wonder what's taking PNOY too long to expose "Magat Dam Issue" ::)
ahh.. baka sa susunod na na State of the Wang2 niya... para may masabi ulit. ;D

Alam ko lahat ng issues ng previous administration ay iimbestigahan. Let's wait and see, isa isa na nga lumalabas ang baho ng dating administration, ok iyon kesa sa sabay sabay ilabas  ;D :D mas maganda mapagaralan ng husto kahit matagal

Quote from: pinoybrusko on August 17, 2011, 03:27:43 PM
Alam ko lahat ng issues ng previous administration ay iimbestigahan. Let's wait and see, isa isa na nga lumalabas ang baho ng dating administration, ok iyon kesa sa sabay sabay ilabas  ;D :D mas maganda mapagaralan ng husto kahit matagal

mapag-aralan ba kung pano isa-isang ipre-pressure yung mga tao na gawin yung bagay na hindi dapat gawin para lang maidiin ang previous admin? hehehe.... pathetic!

you should not think that way, lahat naman ng issues hinde lang sa previous administration ay may mga pressures. Pero evidence and thorough investigation would still prevail. I'm following the news on the TV. Kayo naman pumipili ng ibabalita sa taong bayan na manonood at kayo rin ang nagbibitaw ng mga exaggerated words  ;D

kamusta na kaya si Pnoy? ano na kaya mga nagawa nya?

GDP growth went down to 3.4% in 2nd Quarter. Result of Underspending & no clear economic policy. Tall order 2 achieve 7.8 by year's end.Time 2 think

Pa-importante yung office of the president, although importante naman talaga. Hehehe. Naalala ko nung time ni Ramos, highschool pa ako nun, we wrote a letter as a project sa isa naming subject sa president and he immediately replied. Etong current presidency, sumulat kami sa office nila para manghingi ng message for our medschool yearbook pero mukhang hesitant kasi pinasa-pasa yung letter namin sa kung kani-kaninong tao. Tsk tsk tsk.

ill just pray for him whew

On Topic:

Still not contended with the way he governs the Philippines. Puro sya patutsada sa past administration eh. Hindi na lang gumawa ng gumawa at baguhin ang mga dapat baguhin.

Given the numerous projects under former PGMA's administration which the aquino government is adopting -- cct, north rail and nbn -- Zambales congresswoman mitos magsaysay believes, former pres. Gloria Arroyo is vindicated. Magsaysay says, this proves that CGMA was right all along in pursuing these programs for the betterment of Filipinos.  But political analyst ramon casiple says, it's not the project themselves that are questionable since there's nothing wrong with them in principle. What is questionable about most projects during the arroyo regime is their execution/implementation (eg lack of transparency, rigged/no bidding, proliferation of kickbacks, etc). But magsaysay says, these are mere allegations and perceptions and they remain to be proven in court. Magsaysay laments, the problem with the current administration is their "wholesale allegation of corruption. They automatically include CGMA in any allegation of wrongdoing. Puwede namang yung subordinates lang niya ang sangkot, pero laging idinadamay si gma. Dapat yung may kasalanan lang ang panagutin, at huwag idamay yung iba." Magsaysay says, the aquino govt engages in trial by publicity. Magsaysay assures, she will closely monitor the aforementioned projects the govt is reviving to ensure that everything is above board.

Lahat ng bilihin tumaas na, ang sahod di tumataas lalo na sa mga maliit lang ang pinagkakakitaan kawawa naman.
..di pa daw kailangan itaas ang sahod.. sabi nya sa isang interview.

sana wag naman malugmok lalo ang mga pilipino..

kasunod ng pagtaas ng mga bilihin ay ang pagtaas ng trust at satisfactory ratings ni PNOY.. hmmm... i smell something fishy!

^ ikaw ba naman, partly owned ng family ang survey company hahaha

pagbigyan nyo na. makikita naman yan sa performance nya talaga eh.

^ aba another Pnoy fan  :D

Nope.. I am not a PNoy fan. :D
Actually I am one of those people who are not contended with his works.

Tax dito, tax doon.
Biruin mo, pati ukay ukay eh gustong lagyan ng tax.
Bawat galaw mo may tax na. kulang na lang eh pati paggamit ng public toilet eh lagyan ng tax.

Nasaa ka PNOY?


nasaan nga ba si PNOY sa huling nagdaang bagyo?
nagugutom na ang mga taga-bulacan at pampanga.. walang tulong na dumarating sa pamahalaan..
karamihan sa mga tulong na natatanggap ay galing pa sa mga non-government organizations...

intindihin na natin kung ayaw niya sa baha. anak-mayaman eh  ::)  http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/71063/why-aquino-didn%E2%80%99t-visit-flood-victims-sooner

dumating rin pero nag-bakasyon muna sa Japan LOL

Quote from: pong on October 06, 2011, 12:47:02 AM
intindihin na natin kung ayaw niya sa baha. anak-mayaman eh  ::)  http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/71063/why-aquino-didn%E2%80%99t-visit-flood-victims-sooner

dumating rin pero nag-bakasyon muna sa Japan LOL

ayos.. haha... at nagdonate pa sa Japan..

boss jude, supporter ka ba ni PNoy? haaaay nakakairita na siya.

marami kaming frustrated kay PNoy. kasama na si jude diyan. :-)

bakit ba kasi binoto-boto gayong haaaaissst produkto lang siya ng quasi-monarchical political system sa pilipinas?! IMO, okay pa siguro kung si erap nanalo. nakakaaliw talaga! hahahaha!!! convicted plunderer pwede pang tumakbong presidente! hahahaha... bobong constitution na sinulat ng mga pinakamatatalinong tao sa pilipinas

Quote from: pong on October 29, 2011, 08:32:14 PM
boss jude, supporter ka ba ni PNoy? haaaay nakakairita na siya.

numero unong kritiko ako pong.. lol!

tara po sir jude, numero dos naman ako!!! hehehehe XD

pansin ko pong, ikaw din ang numero unong kritiko ng mga up graduates. hahahaha! :-p

oi hindi naman doc. marami akong kaibigan na taga-UP although binoboljack ko pag pinaiiral nila yung braggadocio nila nang wala sa lugar. ako naniniwala ako na hindi sa eskuwelahan ang katalinuhan ng tao, nasa tao yun. believer ako ni mark twain eh :)

May pag asa pa din siguro..

hahaha konting kibot lang dami na agad tayong reklamo at sana hinde siya ang nanalo. tsk tsk.

Dapat natin tanggapin na si Pnoy ang ating pangulo at imbes mag ngangawa tayo eh suportahan natin ang pangulo natin kahit in the most simplest way we can. Siya naman ang nanalo sa botohan so we need to accept the fact. Pati mga botante sisisihin ano ba yan....

Mga pinoy nga naman!!!

tama!..isa ako sa mga bumoto sa kanya hindi dahil sinusuportahan ko xa sa lahat ng sinasabi nya,or dahil tingin ko magaling xa..binoto ko xa for only 1 reason..sa lahat ng presidential candidate last election,sa kanya lng ako confident na hindi sya corrupt..kasi corruption naman ang puno't dulo ng lahat ng paghihirap nating mga pinoy..so dahil may tiwala akong hindi xa corrupt,kahit ano pa maging kapalpakan nya,somehow parang ok lng,at least hindi xa magnanakaw..eh aanhin ko nman ang matalino at magaling na leader kung sarili lng nya ang payayamanin nya..

Quote from: vir on October 31, 2011, 02:01:56 AM
tama!..isa ako sa mga bumoto sa kanya hindi dahil sinusuportahan ko xa sa lahat ng sinasabi nya,or dahil tingin ko magaling xa..binoto ko xa for only 1 reason..sa lahat ng presidential candidate last election,sa kanya lng ako confident na hindi sya corrupt..kasi corruption naman ang puno't dulo ng lahat ng paghihirap nating mga pinoy..so dahil may tiwala akong hindi xa corrupt,kahit ano pa maging kapalpakan nya,somehow parang ok lng,at least hindi xa magnanakaw..eh aanhin ko nman ang matalino at magaling na leader kung sarili lng nya ang payayamanin nya..

apir, same sentiment  :D

frustration with the president does not mean he is not accepted as president.

in our case, duda na nga kami nung una, nakakadisappoint pa siya ngayon. but does this mean hindi namin ginagawa mga tungkulin namin para maging isang responsableng pilipino? of course hindi. dahil hindi kami bilib sa pangulo ngayon, ginagawa namin, sa abot ng aming makakakaya, para pagbutihin pa ang sarili upang makatulong sa kapwa pilipino.

and just a comment sa isang sinabi na hindi corrupt si pnoy. no one can really tell that except pnoy himself and his allies. that is only a perceived idea. just like our idea that hindi magaling si pnoy. it is only but perceived because that was how we saw him. but even so, since sociology grad naman si vir, i guess he knows better that the index of corruption is great in leaders that come from a family lineage of politicians. kaya nga nag-exist ang mga cronies, etc.

tama ka rin jan doc..mahabang usapin talaga to..may point lahat ang mga opinyon ntin at mahirap talaga pagisahin..maraming factors kung bakit iba iba ang pananaw ng bawat isa..base sa kung ano ang idinidikta ng lipunan na kinabibilangan nya,anjan ang family,environment,education,government,religion,organization/institution at maging personal experience..kaya walang pedeng magsabi na mali ang sinasabi ng isang tao dahil hindi natin alam ang pinaghuhugutan ng saloobin nya..kaya bilang individual,let's keep on sharing our thoughts and experiences and at the same time,don't forget to listen..di pwedeng share ka lng ng share,dapat marunong ka rin makinig..

dahil sa pagkahaba haba man ng ating paguusap,darating at darating pa rin tayo sa the bottom line - boy abunda..hahaha :D

^ tama kayo. he cannot please everybody. honestly, ang rant ko lang naman kay PNoy eh umaasta siya na parang hindi presidente. hindi fixed ang composure niya sa national issues. parang walang sariling desisyon. hindi siguro big deal na slouchy siya kumilos.

instrumental ang presidente sa pambansang pagkakaisa. halimbawa: kung mukhang mahina ("mukha" lang ah) ang boss mo, parang pwedeng bully-hin ng mga manager sa inyo, hindi ba nakaka-baba ng morale? yun yung nakikita kong analysis.

frustrated ako in a way on how he handles the problems. parang... wala lang sa kanya.

I didn't vote for PNoy. I was apprehensive and his lackadaisical performance now certainly validates my earlier realization that he lacks the intellectual and moral rigor to lead the nation in transforming Philippine society.

Unelected and Illegal Government of Benigno Simeon "Noynoy" Cojuangco Aquino III
by Nicanor Perlas

June 30, marks the transition into power of all government officials elected during the recent May 10, 2010 automated elections. Many believe that these officials, including the President, Vice-President, and Senators were duly elected by the will of the people. Unfortunately, and no little thanks to the complicity and spin of many mainstream media establishments, this new set of local and national government officials were all illegally installed. They are the beneficiaries of a silent de facto civilian coup engineered by the country's elitewho perpetuated massive fraud in the nation's first automated elections.

This "electronic Garci" dwarfs the manual cheating done by Commission on Elections (Comelec) Commissioner "Garci" in the 2004 presidential elections. In effect, we now have a "new" government by virtue of corrupt operators who subverted our democracy. Consider the following.

Legal Violations of RA 9369 by Comelec

From the very beginning, Comelec, tasked by the Philippine Constitution to ensure clean and honest elections, did the very opposite of their mandate and responsibility. Comelec violated practically every major provision of Republic Act 9369, popularly known as the law mandating the use of an Automated Election System (AES).

Among others, Comelec violated the following provisions of RA 9369:

No pre-testing of AES in Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao;

No public examination of the source code to be used by the Precinct Count Optical Scanner (PCOS) machines;

Dismantling of the PCOS UV security system;

Removal of the Voter Verification feature; remember the infamous "congratulations" you got on the PCOS machine instead of a list verifying your vote?;

Re-configuration of Compact Flash (CF) cards without proper oversight;

No digital signatures (on Electronic Returns) as defined and required by RA 9369 and the Electronic Commerce Act;

No clear inventory and accountability of millions of unused ballots;

CF cards carried to canvassing center without security;

Random Manual Audit (RMA) not done in the polling place and on the day itself and remained incomplete weeks after the elections;

Hash codes in the Antipolo PCOS machines do not match published Comelec Hash Codes, showing that the Antipolo PCOS machines are illegal.

Highly Suspicious Activities

In addition, a few days before the elections, Comelec quietly sent out 20 CF cards and 2 "burners" to all provinces in the country, or a total 1600 CF cards and 160 "burners". If one is computer literate and has access to the appropriate software, then this provision basically gives the necessary tools to operators to fraudulently tamper with election results, which they did. (See related discussion below.)

Despite warnings by the IT community, Comelec continuously assured the voting public that there will only be minimal problems with the electronic transmission of votes. Yet, on election day itself, there was a massive failure of transmission of votes, affecting more than 30% of all votes. The transmission failures gave political operators the opportunity to manually and electronically manufacture the votes.

Again, despite warnings by professionals and concerned citizens based on time and motion studies, Comelec assured the general public that there would be no delays in the voting. But during election day, there were very long lines. Many voters waited in line for hours in order to vote. But a significant number went home after experiencing delays lasting more than 6 hours. Five to eight million voters were disenfranchised in the process.

Even worst, because of transmission problems, Comelec lowered the threshold for canvassing of votes from 100% precinct returns, to sometimes, less than 70%. So even those who voted were disenfranchised because, in the end, their votes were not counted. And these figures do not include the highly problematic "null votes" numbering in the millions, votes that were also cast aside uncounted.

Common Pattern of Fraudulent Operations

Because Comelec dismantled key security features of the AES, political operators, including Comelec employees and Smartmatic technicians, were able to hijack the system and manufacture the "winners" of the May 2010 elections.

The House Committee on Suffrage and Electoral Reforms conducted investigations on the fraud committed during the recent elections. A significant number of candidates for congressmen, governor, and mayor testified in the Committee hearings. Significantly, their independent stories converged into a pattern of fraudulent operations that manufactured the "winners" of the recent elections.

Candidates were offered victory at the polls. The offer presented precise numbers and percentages of voters who will vote for the candidate.

The operators sold their illegal "services" for a price ranging from P10/vote to as high as P500/vote.

When the candidates refused the offer, the operators offered the same package to the opponents of the candidates.

Oftentimes, these opponents were not as popular as the candidates who refused the offer to cheat in their behalf. The opponents did not have large crowds in campaign rallies and did not campaign as much as the candidate. The opponents, certain of their "victory" also displayed arrogant and cocky behavior towards the candidate testifying in Congress.

Modus Operandi of Fraud

The Committee hearings and other evidence revealed how the political operators manufactured the results of the May 2010 elections. Their method relied on:

Pre-programmed Primary CF Cards

Pre-shaded ballots

Interception of Transmissions

Collusion with Smartmatic Technicians and Comelec officials

Even Congressman Teodoro Locsin, Chairman of the House Committee on Suffrage and Electoral Reforms, in his Committee Report, makes this observation as reported in the 29 June 2010 issue of the Daily Tribune:

"Voting logged as taking place hours after the close of voting hours, with ballots logged as having been fed to the voting machine at a fast and unvarying rate consistent only with one person doing it, are not just suspicious but invalid as well."

Another fingerprint of fraud is the mismatch between Smartmatic's internal data and the transmission figures reported by TV stations on the evening of election day and newspapers the following day. On May 10, 2010, Comelec announced on 11:11pm, barely 4 hours after elections, that 57% or 21 million votes were already received from precincts all over the country. On the contrary, according to the congressional Committee testimony of the operations manager of LRA, which handled the secret Smartmatic National Data Center, their field technicians were reporting that only 20% of the precinct votes have come in.

Obviously the big question is why the huge difference between the two figures? Clearly an unknown data source was broadcasting fake election results into the central server of Comelec.

Not to be left behind, the Parish Pastoral Council for Responsible Voting (PPCRV) became a de facto watchdog for Comelec instead of the voting public. Despite the massive evidence of fraud emerging at the local and national levels, PPCRV's silence on the matter was defeaning.

Yes, there were political operators selling manufactured votes and corrupt politicians spending millions to buy their illegal services. And yes, Comelec had failed to do its regulatory duty and opened the floodgates for massive cheating. But, in the end, fraud would have not taken place at the massive scale that it did without the silent complicity of survey outfits, mainstream media, and the PPCRV.

May 2010 Elections: Invalid and Void From the Beginning

If an election process wantonly violates the law, can one consider the election results valid? The obvious common sense and legal answer is a resounding "No!". The recent national elections were void and invalid from the beginning. Therefore, the national and local officials who were "elected" by this fraudulent process cannot claim to be the authentic and legitimate beneficiaries of the "will" of the electorate.

Many are longing for a new beginning with the incoming government. Do not hold your breath. A new government conceived in fraud cannot become the center of a moral and systemic transformation that this country is longing for.

It is obvious that a moral and effective governance cannot arise on the basis of massive fraud. Citizens have to act now to challenge the new de facto civilian coup that the recent elections have placed in power.

^ hmmm maybe i can help. aside from the insufficient audit trail, the files were not encrypted. the law in itself (RA 9369) should have consulted not only the legal experts, but the IT experts who knows the trends in encryption methods to prevent fraud.  hey, after all, even with strict controls, as long as there is override, everything will be in vain.

if this is indeed a serious allegation of Perlas, then he has to lobby for the investigation of this issue.

Quote from: ctan on November 01, 2011, 01:49:30 PM
if this is indeed a serious allegation of Perlas, then he has to lobby for the investigation of this issue.

doc ctan,idol na talaga kita..hindi ka lng pang medical,pang law pa.. galing mo attorney ctan.. =)

^^ hahaha. kakatawa ka vir! hahaha!

Quote from: ctan on November 03, 2011, 09:54:17 PM
^^ hahaha. kakatawa ka vir! hahaha!

haha..may tym ka pa bang mag-aral?karirin mo na yan..tingin ko kaya mo pa mag law..hehe..

teacher na, doctor na, lawyer pa. nawks naman doc!!! Ctan for president!

ang jingle: korupsiyon ay tantanan, ihalal si dr. tan :D
tapos si angel locsin ang endorser <3